A Tough Question

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Zephirus, Mar 16, 2009.

  1. Zephirus

    Zephirus Light Load Member

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    Hey everyone!

    Ive been on these forums constantly for about a week now preparing my entry back into the trucking business. Well I got on with a company that is going to pay for my re-training and everything and according to the forums here, they have more good things said than bad so yep....

    I drove for a year for covenant and I was thinking about something.


    Where do you draw the line between earning money and not being 100% legal or safe? I dont need a lecture, I want to be 100% legal and safe at all times. However I remember a couple times my dispatcher getting angry at me for little things I wern't comfortable with such as a small air leak on a trailer or running out of time despite my honest best efforts to make the load on time. I guess what I am asking is....if you refuse to do something because it isn't legal or safe, how do you protect your job and your DAC report? Ive seriously thought about buying a camera just to document every message that I send and recieve over the qualcomm lol.

    On another note, I remember winter driving. My truck had cables but all the signs said that chains were required. If I had gotten pulled over, would the cables have sufficed or would I need chains? I remember a discussion with my dispatcher regarding that and he never could give me a straight answer about it....
     
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  3. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    Why don't you just ask what companies have a no tolerance on HOS violations ? There are quite a few . If you see a truck with a Qualcomm there's a pretty good chance they run compliant . I know Crete is very strict . They have to be because FMCSA is watching them closely .
     
  4. GasHauler

    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    Keeping records on every matter that you believe is in question is a good idea. You can also let it be known right from the start that you only run legal. The one big draw back is if you're wrong about an item and cost the company time and money. It's always best to give a reference to the violation.

    The problem today is finding another job. If you work for a company that forces you to run on the line then it would be best to find another company. Like RickG says there are companies out there that run legal because they have learned along time ago that it's much cheaper to run that way.

    If you get lucky you'll work for a company like mine that took the drivers word no matter what. But to get to those companies you have to have a perfect record. I've also seen companies that work trying to get the drivers record dirty so he's locked into thier job. And you know which company would be better.

    As far as a small air leak if you do the brake test and it fails then you have all the backing you need. Just make sure you do it with the engine shut off and you check all you connections(doubles/triples).
     
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  5. Big Don

    Big Don "Old Fart"

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    Your dispatcher is not the one who will be cited, or possibly involved in an accident, and then a lawsuit. No, you don't want to piss off the dispatcher, but it is your butt in the sling, not his.
     
  6. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    Management and dispatchers have been convicted of criminal charges regarding log book falsification . It seems these were always with small carriers . Executives at the large carriers are never charged .

    http://www.oig.dot.gov/Room?subject=10

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  7. groovemachine

    groovemachine Light Load Member

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    Just run 100% safe and legal. It is your butt that will end up in prison if a tragic accident occurs while you are running illegal even if it's not your fault. Easy answer really.

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  8. He who is called I am

    He who is called I am Medium Load Member

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    Exactly... 15 minutes over one your logs 747 comes falling outta the sky hits your truck. Its your fault.
     
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  9. panhandlepat

    panhandlepat Road Train Member

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    LOL unfortunate but TOO TRUE.
     
  10. Dave27107

    Dave27107 Light Load Member

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    Qualcom messages can't be erased by dispatch! Use it to verify what you might have said to dispatch on the phone.
    As far as running safe and legal ... do it. Let the dispatch folks worry about their end. As long as you don't wait until the last minute to tell them you have a problem, they should be ok with it. In other words, as soon as you are aware of a problem either with the truck/trailer, or your hours, let dispatch know via qualcom. As others have said, it won't be their rear in the sling when something bad happens, it will be yours. Remember the Exxon Valdez? Exxon is still in business, bet the captain of the Valdez is a deck hand now, if he can even get a job on a ship.
     
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