Hey Heavy, what do you know about adjusting rear brakes on the 9400I?
my rear axle pads are wearing wacky... the bottom pads are wearing way quicker than the tops, is this normal?
I don't think so, and they're wearing more on one end than the other, in other words not wearing evenly on the bottoms.
I'm gonna take a look around on here, but just got this note from you and figered I'd ask you right off.
Adjusting Rear Brakes on 9400I
Discussion in 'International Forum' started by hd99_fatboy, May 18, 2011.
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The lower shoe wearing quicker could be from a couple of causes. The return springs could be weak, so the shoe is kinda dragging all the time. You could also have worn s-cam tube bushings so the s-cam is starting to sink down a bit in the tube. Is the other wear uneven from inside to outside, or leading edge to the trailing edge? If it is inner to outer wear, this is common with bell-mouthed drums, bent spiders or bent axles.
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the wear is more on the trailing edge or to the rear of the lower shoe.
how much would a job like this cost at a shop?
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Get your brakes inspected to see if they need replacement. The shoes do have a tapered shape to them. They are thicker at the s-cam end and get thinner because of the way they pivot at the back of the spider. As long as you have outboard drums, or the type of wheel that the brake drum can come off without pulling the hub and wheel seal, the general rule of thumb is about an hour per wheel for a brake job.
Here is a picture of new shoes, see how the shoe is tapered opposite of the s cam side.Attached Files:
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oh yeah, I see that, maybe thats what I'm seeing on mine...
I'll have to take another look, but it's pouring right now and getting dark, did you wax your car again? hahha
I'm also seeing heat checks on the drum surface, but I read somewhere thats normal, and they come and go...
I can't find anything online about doing a brake job on this truck.
got any links?
is there a way to adjust them without taking off the wheel?
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you sure you have been driving 26 years?
you should be checking your brakes daily--especially if you dont know how they work---find a mechanic who will give you a quick run down on what to look for and what is ok and oos -
yeah, I'm sure. I was a company driver, how many company drivers do you know who check their brakes daily?
I've also worked on cars since I was 11. went to school for auto repair, and never had to bring any of my vehicles to a shop, except for tires and alignments, and I bought a tire changer last year and change my own tires now as well, car tires anyway.
haven't had the pleasure of changing a truck tire yet, and I'm not looking forward to that either, but I ain't afraid of getting my hands dirty, and at some point, I'm gonna get the gear to do that as well.
I've owned my own truck for a total of, let see about 4 months now.
when I bought it, the brakes were pristine, brand spankin new.
I check a lot of things daily, but not the brake shoes, and I've never been a big truck mechanic, so no I don't know exactly how they work.
but so far I've changed my water pump, the starter, replaced the batteries, fixed a few broken clamps, found and repaired a leaky bunk...
can't think of what else right now, does this make me a know it all...
NO, but I'm learning.
and with some constructive help from guys like HeavyD and a few others I've had the pleasure of speaking to on this forum, I've been able to keep some of my hard earned money and keep my truck running.
90% of the time I've spoken with anyone in some shop I've been given the run around and fed a heapin helpin of ########, so I don't trust a lot of them.
but I do believe you are actually trying to give me some constructive criticism and not just breaking my balls, and I see you've been on this forum a long time, and helped out quite a few folks, so I will try and find out more about how the brakes work on my rig, and make sure they are in excellent running order.
if I had one of them big assed bottle jacks, a 200 psi compressor and a 3/4 inch drive air gun, I'd probably have them wheels off and lookin at them brakes right now, to find out just how they do work, and fix em.
but I don't so, at some point I'll be at the mercy of some shop, hopefully local and not on the road, and before I hit anything or worse.
but I don't believe there's anything that wrong with my brakes right now, they just seemed to be wearing in a strange way, and I was trying to inquire what might be making them do that.
I may have asked a stupid question with the slack adjusters bit up there in my last post, but I've been taught, the only stupid question is the one you didn't ask...
so with that, canuck in da truck, I thank you, and anxiously await your next post. -
ok---if you have a mechanical background--then the brakes will be pretty easy for you to do--and no special tool if you dont have to change the wheel seal---
the main thing is just getting the wheels off for you
120 to 150 psi will do the job---a 1/2 inch impact will take them off--if it is good one--but its pretty hard on it and screws them up
i think it would be best if you had somebody there to show you for the first wheel anyways--how the brakes work--then you get the idea pretty quick
words are one thing--but for me--if somebody shows me--its a lot better
if you closer i would gladely give you handhd99_fatboy Thanks this. -
much appreciated Canuck, thanks.
And HeavyD, so apparently what I was seeing as an uneven wear pattern developing, is the taper of the shoe itself.
and the heat checks I was seeing the other day are almost gone.
I was doing a lot of heavy loads last week and the week before, so I guess I'll be using the trolly brake a lot more when under a heavy load for sure.
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Yah, the heat checks are completely normal. I would be happy to show you everything you need to know too! As for adjusting your brakes there are few different ways, they are basically the same.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/helm-arm-lod/mm1.pdf
This is a master maintenance pdf by Meritor, but it should be very helpful. Brake adjustment starts on p95.kwforage and hd99_fatboy Thank this.
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