advanced driving school for crst

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by mauidave22, Mar 12, 2011.

  1. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    You just got out of driving class, and do not have a CDL yet? Is this a pre-driving class for CRST ?If you finished school, you tested out on the final day at DMV and either passed or failed. So, I'm a little confused. Oh, BTW, I was an instructor at ASD in '04/'05. One of the better schools in Fontana. Yes, it's basic schooling, since you really get your experience later at your company. I noticed students that weren't cut out for trucking and students that slipped into the drivers seat with ease. And yeah, it's scary to think you can show up at DMV with a big truck and test out and if you pass, you are issued a CDL. Even though you just had 10-15 hours behind the wheel training.
     
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  3. mauidave22

    mauidave22 Bobtail Member

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    If you actually taught at ASD then you should know that only 10% of the class will MAYBE get recalled to go to the dmv. Yes I passed there test from their certified dmv instructor and all paperwork went to crst. The instructors at ASD were busy with cell phones and talking with each other while students were teaching students. Your reply back seems a little ####y and to have that from a trucker forum staff is #$%##. Just saying there are too many students just flying thru the classes and yes I did today pass the crst driving test.
     
  4. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Wow, still confused, what do you mean 10% get recalled to take DMV test? 100% of students take the DMV test. Who would go to a truck school and pay the tuition and then have a 1 in 10 chance of taking the DMV test. Do you have a CDL in hand, or, just a permit and currently training at CRST? Not trying to be ####y, some of what you're saying doesn't make sense. It sounds like CRST sends students to Advance school for some kind of "pre school" and then finish their training with CRST. Can you "splain it" for me ?
     
  5. tsisqua

    tsisqua Bobtail Member

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    Steven's don't take care of their trucks either, even after being in for exactly that. And of course, it's the driver's fault if stopped.
    CRST nor Steven's are good to drive for. You get screwed head over heels by both.
     
  6. donc

    donc Bobtail Member

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    Man things sure over the years I learned how to drive as a city driver on the streets of St.Louis ...when I got out of the Marine Corps forty years ago. I guess I'm just a old dinosaur.
     
  7. mauidave22

    mauidave22 Bobtail Member

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    Just saying that I did not go down to an actual goverment owned dmv office to get tested on site. Is that splaining it to you.
     
  8. High Desert Dweller

    High Desert Dweller Medium Load Member

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    California has an ETP (Employer Testing Program).

    http://dmv.ca.gov/vehindustry/etp/etpfaq.htm

    The school administers the DMV skills test on behalf of the employer. Students who are tested via ETP are randomly selected by the DMV and must go to the DMV and take the test, usually within a year or so. Sorta like random drug testing.

    I see Swift, CR England, CRST ETP students at the San Bernardino DMV all the time, and they actually do a good job, overall.
     
  9. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    OK, that "splains" it somewhat. Yeah, I'm aware of Ca.'s ETP program. When I was at ASD, we didn't have that program. ALL students tested at DMV.
     
  10. Long Road Trucker

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    I drive at CRST and have for thirteen years. My partner, is here 22 years. That is 35 years of live, real life experience. I have trained a time or two as well. Actually I have 23 years experience total, so that's 45 years between us and we aint no spring chickens, i will tell you that.

    This is for the new people, who are getting into driving and is not for those pathetic souls who lasted a few days or two months or have had problems along the way and instead of taking the proper channels to fix something, they bailed out and find the time to talk negative trash about a company where majority of the drivers will tell you, they have no issues. Why is this not for you whiners and cry babies? because you didn't last long enough and pay your dues in order for your two cents to matter. It's people like this that give good companies bad names. If a new person doing their research to see what fits for them sees this nonsense, they will never get going.

    Trucking is not a country club lifestyle. For every dollar and cents you make, you work for it. This is not a easy life and until you get going and build time behind the wheel, you don't get to earn the big dollars and cents.

    If CRST sends you to a school and the school is beneath your standards, boo the heck hoo. What did you expect? a university campus? you get to see that campus when you are out on the road, turning miles, not while you are supposed to learning how to drive a truck in a school setting.

    Here is some truth. Schools do not have the best equipment. You are not going to get behind the wheel of a new truck, schools don't budget for that luxury.

    Now if you get to school and you see crappy equipment, this is part of paying your dues. You get the better equipment when you get out on the job and even then, you don't get brand new.

    I could go on and on all day, but let me end it on this gear. You have to pay your dues, there is no way around it, it is part of what you sign up for.

    You were told the pay and the benefits. Recruiters don't always tell you things they should and here is why. Very few recruiters have ever drove a truck and if you find one with a CDL, your looking at something pretty rare.

    When your with a trainer, your part of the team, even if you are a trainee. This is nothing different than starting a new job where you need to learn a companies systems, policies and procedures. You are part of the team and the success of that team comes down to working hard, being safe, and doing what your supposed to be doing.

    Most trainers will treat you well when they see that you really want to be in the industry and training to be a driver is not some dream of yours or fantasy your living out. If you get onto a trainers truck and your unsafe, abusive to the equipment, talk like a thug and act like a idiot, you will not be treated well. You may also find yourself sitting and waiting for another trainer truck. Ask yourself this, if it was your truck or assigned company truck, would you want to deal with someone who is not serious.

    I have read the responses and if you look at it for what it is, you would not put much stock behind these stories, from people who probably should not have come to CRST in the first place.
     
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  11. Long Road Trucker

    Long Road Trucker Bobtail Member

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    I knew I left something out. Schools teach you the basics. They teach you what you need to know to get your Class-A CDL. The reason is this.

    Once you leave them and are out on a trainers truck, it is at that point in time, that you learn everything above and beyond the basics.

    If you concentrate on yourself and not so much on idiots, whiners and cry babies, you will actually learn how to drive a truck and then and only then can you get going in trucking.
     
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