Advice needed... Bad trainer, possible Carbon Monoxide poisoning

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by deviltalk, Feb 28, 2012.

  1. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    It is a good idea... get one with a digital display, even if it costs a bit more. Mount it at head-height when you are lying down in your bunk.
     
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  3. Smaggs

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    I didn't mount mine. I put it on my shelf above my windshield. Since Carbon Monoxide weighs less than normal air, I put it there for an early detection, should I get a leak into my cab.

    Another place that could work is inside your bunk, but above your head or attach it to the bottom of the top bunk if you have that option.

    Another is to mount it at the ceiling above the sleeper area.

    Keeping the detector at or above head height is the best way to get an early warning... these suckers are LOUD, too. You won't be sleeping through it!
     
  4. Semi Cdn

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    Mr Smaggs Sir,

    Carbon Monoxide Detector, what a clever idea !!! brilliant.
     
  5. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    I designed the darn things for a number of years, and ran some through the approval process at UL in Northbrook IL. CO is so close to the molecular weight of a nitrogen molecule (the majority of the atmospehere) that there is little difference in weight between the two.

    CO introduced into a mass of undisturbed air will tend to stay exactly where it is unless there is some kind of mechanical mixing (say a fan) in use. Mount it at head-height where you're sleeping. You want it to tell you what's going on at your nose... not 5 feet above it.
     
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  6. deviltalk

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    To the 30% or so that have interpreted my post as whining or a means of seeking compensation of any sort... It is not.

    I've heard very little about CO poisoning until this exp, and contact with my company has been zero since my coming home.

    I am on here professing my ignorance, having already made clear to you road warriors that the OTR lifestyle is not for me....

    I'll spare you the details, but I have been experiencing a sickness that is not familiar, from a truck that is presently in the shop for at least 2 different exhaust leaks...

    Advice is what I'm after, and I have no trouble being open in my ignorance...

    A pity so many talented drivers are so angry about being talented drivers...

    One other note. My trainer did buy a CO detector which had peek levels of 35PPN. He has it in the sleeper, though the lot of the fumes would come in through the air vents.

    My thanks to those who contributed.
     
  7. Licensed to kill

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    You could be allergic or just very sensitive to diesel fumes just like cigarette smoke where some people can bask in it and feel great but others get nauseous just standing next to someone that had a smoke an hour ago. That would explain alot.
     
  8. deviltalk

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    Indeed so... The trainer was also very sick. He was the first to feel the effects.
     
  9. orphan andy

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    All i can say is YES, i believe it is possible to have very adverse reactions to diesel exhaust fumes---based on personal experience. So, the matter should be addressed. While these sicknesses may not have permanent effects (this is debateable) they certainly do cause discomfort and, and the very least, could be safety related in that this could cause you to not be able to control the truck with conviction(same as being drunk, tired or sleepy) and/or even cause you to fall asleep while driving.

    2) What is your position(in terms of standing) with the company right now?
     
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  10. ironpony

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    Exposure is related to both CO concentration, and time. A low dose (35 PPM is below the minimum exposure threshold) for a long period or a high concentration (400 PPM) for a short time produce the same effect in blood saturation levels.

    35 PPM is not enough to kill ya, but given a long enough time it would make you nauseous, give you a headache, would make it hard for you to think, make you irritable, etc.

    The effects should dissipate over time - say 24 hours. If you are still feeling "sick" you should consult a physician. Most of the clinical testing on CO poisoning has been done at higher levels. Very little can be attributed with any level of certainty to low level exposure (say 10 PPM) for long periods. BTW... 10 PPM is the kind of dose you'd get standing on the corner of a busy city intersection at rush hour.
     
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  11. deviltalk

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    Of now they have let me go home for a few days but don't want to see me go. I've written a candid email copying all departments giving them a detailed description of what has gone down since I got on the truck until today.

    The initial problem was noticed on the 14th. I got off the truck on the 24th. While the problem may have been present prior to the 14th, I am guessing I was exposed for about 10 days and have continued to feel sick for the 5 days I have been off.

    The letter was very professional with no threats of lawsuits or shakedowns. I told them I would be going to a clinic tomorrow if the problem continues...

    We'll see what they say...

    Also, I should make clear that the company has been very standup with the exception of the trainer. I don't want to start mud flinging another company. That isn't my intent.
     
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