Advice running paper logs on a glider kit

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  1. TruckingWithJesus

    TruckingWithJesus Bobtail Member

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    I’ve had some bad luck recently and had some trouble finding a company that would hire me. Got lucky and found a guy who’s hiring me on. He runs pre 2000 engines in glider kits. Runs paper logs. Pretty excited as I hated converting to E-logs. Would love some advice on what to have for DOT to see as I imagine I’m going to be targeted at weigh stations, especially concerning that I’ll have the shell of a post 2000 freightliner body but a pre 2000 engine, and want to be more than prepared for it. Through my own research I see I need to be able to prove my engines age, etc. would love to hear how others are doing running on paper logs in glider kits. Do you find yourself being targeted? What should I expect, look out for, as far as being targeted in a glider kit. Thanks, always appreciate y’all’s insight. Great forum here
     
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  3. RockinChair

    RockinChair Road Train Member

    Make sure your log matches the time stamps on your fuel receipts, scale tickets, and BOLs.
     
  4. 062

    062 Road Train Member

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    However, there may be instances when the model year reflected on the vehicle registration is not the same as the engine model year, most commonly when a vehicle is rebuilt using a "glider kit" or when an engine is swapped from one vehicle to another. Vehicles with engines predating model year 2000 are also accepted and are not required to have an ELD, even if the VIN reported on the registration indicates that the commercial motor vehicle (CMV) is a later model year. While the driver is not required to possess documentation that confirms the vehicle engine model year, 49 CFR part 379 Appendix A requires motor carriers to maintain all documentation on motor and engine changes at the principal place of business.
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  5. RubyEagle

    RubyEagle Medium Load Member

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    Just log it as it happens. Be sure to show pre, mid and post trips l heard they like that. Also the rule is now you need to have 14 days logs to show if they ask according to Clutcb Trucker on YouTube
     
  6. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    If you're gonna run it as it happens, why not just convert to elogs? It just seems like so much work to get around it to me.
     
  7. 062

    062 Road Train Member

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    I would read the regulations before trusting someone on YouTube.
     
  8. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I heard that. The regs still say that you have to be able to show your logs for today and the previous 7 days.8 days total. They haven't changed that since before I started driving in 1996.
     
  9. RubyEagle

    RubyEagle Medium Load Member

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    Yeah he said he read the rules so it surprised me.
     
  10. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

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    I’ve Never kept more than last seven haven’t heard anything about it changing
    Just got bs cursory dot ck in Ct Wednesday gave him loose leaf book
    He glanced a minute or 2 and sent me on my way
    Kinda think if 14 now required Mr Personality would’ve said something
     
  11. xsetra

    xsetra Road Train Member

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    Loose leaf log. I don't feel targeted driving my 1999 Freightliner. I get inspected about every 3 months.
    I keep the current and previous 7 days in my book.

    The proof of the engine year is under the hood. Any DOT can ask you to open and look at the data plate.
    I'm not sure you need to carry any paperwork. This might explain it or get you in the right direction.

    40 CFR § 1037.635 - Glider kits and glider vehicles.
    40 CFR § 1037.635 - Glider kits and glider vehicles. | Electronic Code of Federal Regulations (e-CFR) | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute (cornell.edu)
     
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