After 70 days.....

Discussion in 'Prime' started by Sly48, Dec 19, 2012.

  1. PChase

    PChase Road Train Member

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    Well I have a lil ways to go for my miles, I also have 38 or 39 states ( im not countin WV because I slept through it ( in the sleeper Trainer was driving)I know what you mean about the weather thing i got home for the hollidays and a couple of days laterthe I-29 was shut down in NW Mo.

    I could go on and on rabling on about my thing. Ok c Ya later Sly
     
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  3. Sly48

    Sly48 Light Load Member

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    You must be talking about another company....nowhere does it state 6 months. Once with a trainer, it's 30K for a PSD Student and 40K if you didn't go thru Primes PSD Program.
     
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  4. timd1978

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    Nope..I absolutely am not. It is right here on their website:

    http://primeinc.com/drivers/cdl-training.html

    A PRIME Opportunity to Become a Professional Commercial Truck Driver!
    Obtain a permit in your state.
    Drive on the road 3-4 weeks with a CDL instructor.
    Return, pass Skills Test - Obtain Class A CDL.
    Team with a trainer for 4-6 months with guaranteed pay.


    That is right off their website and I have spoken to their drivers who have said the exact same thing. I have been told by Prime drivers that it is usually closer to 6 months than 4. (unless of course a truck driving is exaggerating something...that never happens :biggrin_25523:)

    From what I am told by Prime drivers, if you have a CDL then you just go out with a trainer for the 4-6 months

    Is there some other training program that I am unaware of with this company?? With the options for 41/c a mile right after training why wouldn't more people go with Prime. I was even having a discussion with a current Prime driver a few days ago on here who stated that their trainees were so safe (and they have a great CSA score) because of the long training time
     
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  5. Easy Steamer

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    The mileage requirement WAS previously 40k AFTER psd, It was dropped to 30k last june, Hence the time difference. Apparently they did not update that part of the website. And as far as other drivers telling you that, if they are not trainers, then they don't know, I am a CDL instructor and a trainer. The total is NOT based on time but on mileage and knowledge gained. It is determined by your trainer if you are ready after your mileage requirement is made. The trainers and instructors on this forum give up to date and accurate knowledge, We are doing this every day so we are deeply involved, Please read some of the past threads and read Silent Eagle's new thread FROM THE BEGINNING and you WILL KNOW the facts. I will personally talk to Stan the director of training about getting that corrected on PRIME's website when I return the week after christmas. Thanks for catching it.
     
  6. Easy Steamer

    Easy Steamer Road Train Member

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    ALSO, The 41cpm is accurate if you are assigned a lightweight truck as most new company drivers are. Lightweights get an extra nickle. That is where the 41 comes from
     
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  7. timd1978

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    No problem. I honestly thought about going with Prime to come back to trucking (I had to stay off the road for a while when my 9y/o was diagnosed with cancer). I am in a position to drive once again; however, that 6 months I saw on Prime's website and talking with some guys scared me off of Prime
     
  8. Sly48

    Sly48 Light Load Member

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    I stand corrected.....I will say this...if it takes 6 months, then either you're in a VERY slow freight time or you have a bad FM. Here's the math as I see it,
    for me (non psd student) 40k miles divide by 6 months or roughly 25 weeks would only give you 1600 miles per week. There should be no reason in a training/team driving situation you should not complete your training in 2-3 months. We "averaged" about 4500 miles a week, which would be a little less than 9 weeks. We had one break down that cost us almost 4 days and got stuck on NJ during the hurricane that cost us another 3-4 days and If I had not came home for Christmas I would have completed my training in about 10 weeks or 2.5 months. I think by Prime throwing out 4-6 months, it just covers them in the event "things" happen.
     
  9. timd1978

    timd1978 Light Load Member

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    Understood
     
  10. Chucktaylor

    Chucktaylor Road Train Member

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    Here's the straight dope from someone who's been a company driver instructor an trainer for over 6 years.

    im gonna regret this because someone is going to confused by it and later question it or refer to it as some sort of policy they believe to be current.

    *****the following is no longer Prime training policy****

    training mileage requirement was 60k to go company, and 80k to lease.

    That is where that 4-6 month estimate came from.

    10k credit has always been given to PSD grads.

    So at that time a trainee could complete 60k and ether upgrade to company driver or stay on the trainers truck for an additional 20k and either upgrade to a lease, or Company driver under a higher pay rate.

    60k upgrades could solo the last 20k as a company driver and then either stay company with their first pay raise or go lease.

    the advantage with doing the 20k with a trainer was it was team miles and you could either get to lease quicker or your first company pay raise faster.

    basically they have cut the training mileage requirement in half and did it about 3-4 years ago

    ****the information contained in the majority of this post is in reference to a Prime policy that was in effect YEARS ago. Anyone who thinks these policies are current or repeats these in any subsequent post about Prime on this website, is a moron who has ZERO reading comprehension. This simply an explanation where a currently inaccurate training time estimate came from******

    Anyone taking bets how long before some says "i read it somewhere recently it was 80k..."?
     
  11. Chucktaylor

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    I have to concur with your numbers. Most weeks are under, but close to 5k. However someone here swears there are teams getting 7k miles every week.

    I have met people at Prime terminal who make some outrageous mileage claims, they typically make an excuse when I politely ask to see some settlements or ask for their truck number... Or they swear up and down that to have my FM check their mileage numbers for me is a fireable offense. (It's not, and he doesn't give the exact weekly numbers, he gives the 4 week and 90 day average)

    Oh, a lease trainer is about revenue and not miles.

    Lastly, backing at every shipper and receiver is great training, but the biggest complaint to a FM when things go wrong between a trainer and trainee is the trainee claiming he was forced to work off the clock and falsify logs. The reality being that not every backing evolution falls on the trainees shift.
     
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