After training is over, do you get paid while waiting for a truck?

Time to quit

 

I'm not arguing the HOS rules... just about how you structure your day. You can be smart about it, or squander your legal hours doing nothing.

I agree that if there is something seriously wrong with your vehicle, you're going to be spending some line 4 time dealing with it. And if you're not on line 4, it's time to be the heck out of the sleeper and in a hotel room. You just try to beat me to the check-in!

However, for most of the minor crap we have to deal with... let's say a PM, there is a smart way to deal, and a not-so-smart way:

"All time repairing, obtaining assistance, or remaining in attendance upon a disabled commercial motor vehicle"

Don't hang out at the t/s for a couple of hours, and then go get your service appointment. Do this as soon as you get there, so you can combine this with the rest of your duty day. Arrange for the service staff to call you on your cell if they need anything. THEN GO OFF DUTY. This is perfectly legal. As long as any cell conversation with the service staff takes less than 15-minutes, you don't have to log it. You can certainly flag it if you want to. I don't see us having a disagreement here.

"All time loading or unloading a commercial motor vehicle, supervising, or assisting in the loading or unloading, attending a commercial motor vehicle being loaded or unloaded, remaining in readiness to operate the commercial motor vehicle, or in giving or receiving receipts for shipments loaded or unloaded"

Same deal... if it takes more than 15-minutes to do any of the above, then it has to be logged on line 4. If you spend 2-hours waiting in the service area for a truck stop to change your oil, then yes, you have to log it. If you spend that same 2 hours in a truck stop restaurant, you're on line 1. "Remaining in readiness to operate the commercial motor vehicle" refers to sitting in the drivers seat waiting to drive. You can do the same thing 2 feet from there in the sleeper and be on line 2.

If they call you for 1 minute, and they ask you to move your tractor out of a service bay, that doesn't qualify for line 4. Walking to the truck, firing it up, and parking it doesn't take 15-minutes. If it does, maybe you should loose some weight, or find a different career. This certainly gets flagged to line 3. Usually all the paperwork I have to complete is picking up a copy of the service report, maybe adding a signature. If there was any more to it, then yes, a trip to line 4 is necessary.

The idea is not to "cheat" at logging, but to be as efficient as possible with the time you spend on lines 3 and 4. Time = money.

 

The answer......NO!!!!
After training your pay comes solely from those wheels turning. If that odometer doesn't change your check dont rang.

 

That all depends on your company.