Air fuel ratio control CAT 3408

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  1. Ozdriver

    Ozdriver Heavy Load Member

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    My Caterpillar 3408 has suddenly started blowing heaps of black smoke when I put my foot down, meaning that the air fuel ratio control has stopped working. It may have blown the diaphragm, but it also may just be sticking. I can't remember which way you adjust the screw to give less smoke. The control is the type that is air operated.
    I'm a long way from a CAT dealer, otherwise I'd just buy a new air fuel control, but I still have to adjust it.
    Help please? As far as I know it's the same control as a 3406.
     
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  3. swaan

    swaan Road Train Member

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    If I remember right you undo the 7/16 lock nut the turn the screw in for more fuel..

    Or you can just regulate the fuel with your right foot till you get back to put a new diaphrame in.
    When those get ruptured it usually causes the opposite of what you got going on tho.

    Maybe it just sticking.
     
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  4. Ozdriver

    Ozdriver Heavy Load Member

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    I'm pretty sure one of the screws gives it more fuel and another one adjusts the delay from when the turbo spools up. I had the same trouble a few years back and I put a new air fuel control in, it didn't cost much. Back then I used the CAT online manual which explained everything, but I can't seem to get hold of it now even though I'm still registered with CAT's SIS system.
     
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  5. swaan

    swaan Road Train Member

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    Well I'd just recomend babying the go Pedel at tip in till boost comes on then just change it out when you get home.
    I do know those V8s can sure keep the bug population down tho. Lol
     
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  6. bigguns

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    You probably have this fixed by now . Screw on AFRC is turned in to improve throttle response. The two screws lower on the pump behind the small peanut cover are backed out for more fuel.
    Years ago I drove a 3406B with a bad AFRC and if you blew on the go pedal it rolled black smoke. There was no way to accelerate w/o a big cloud behind.
    You could pm @wore out for the good advice.
     
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  7. Ozdriver

    Ozdriver Heavy Load Member

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    I'm still unloading at an iron ore mine called Tom Price in the the North West of WA, so it isn't fixed yet. I've got to stack my trailers up and go to Perth, just under 1,000 miles away but I can feather the throttle to a certain extent and anyway there isn't much traffic until I'm about 100 miles from the city. I don't know if the AFRC is stuck or I need a new one, but I know it's a pain in the ### to adjust just right. I think I'll wait until I get to Perth before I look at it, and I'll time it to get to the city at night.
     
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  8. Ozdriver

    Ozdriver Heavy Load Member

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    Well, I fixed it. I bought another air fuel ratio control off this engine. Expensive air fuel control because I bought the engine as well. IMG_4601.JPG
     
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  9. bigguns

    bigguns Road Train Member

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    Roflmao. You are the man. Now you need a truck to put it in.
     
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  10. Ozdriver

    Ozdriver Heavy Load Member

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    I've already got one. It'll eventually probably go into my KW. Bolt straight in because there's already a 3408 in there. The engine I bought needs a full rebuild which I'll do when I've got time, no rush.
     
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  11. bigguns

    bigguns Road Train Member

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    I knew you were planning ahead. Hopefully you won’t be needing it for some time.
     
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