Air-Ride vs. U-bolt and many other pre-trip questions.

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Dkenos, Jul 7, 2018.

  1. Dkenos

    Dkenos Bobtail Member

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    I'm in my trucking classes at BTI, and I'm reviewing the video for pre-triping they showed us by APEX. The video is using a different truck, so there are many differences so I am a little confused on a few things. The first of all is what the difference is between an air-ride suspension system shown in the video, and the u-bolt suspension system of the trucks on the range. Is the way to tell them apart just the air bag, or is there something else?

    I'm also wondering how you can more easily identify a gear-driven air compressor pump when it is visible since our truck has it hidden deep where you can barely see it. The video was mum on that part as well.

    Most of my questions involve pre-trip, so this might be a large thread of me asking away.
     
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  3. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    Well saying a suspension is "u-bolt" is incorrect since a lot of air ride suspensions use u-bolts to mount them to the axle. Air ride will have a big, cylinderical "bag" typically behind the axle on each side.

    Unless the truck you're driving is 50 years old it will most certainly be gear driven. If its bolted to the engine gear train its gear driven.
     
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  4. Dkenos

    Dkenos Bobtail Member

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    Okay, so let me rephrase a bit then: During our instructors inspection, he pointed out that the leaf spring suspension was connected to the front axel by 2 u-bolts and 4 nuts, but I did not see the air ride bag. Is this version of suspension named differently, and how does it work differently compared to using air ride.

    As for the engine gear, that part was also glossed over. We were shown the engine in general, but he did not point out anything called an engine gear. I guess I would now ask how you'd identify that as well? I doubt I need it for my pre-trip, but the easier I can find this on another truck, the better.
     
  5. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    I won't have a chance to post anything more for a few hours. I would suggest Googling Hendrickson suspension and check out their website. They make a lot of heavy truck suspensions.
     
  6. Odin's Rabid Dog

    Odin's Rabid Dog Heavy Load Member

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    The suspension with a leaf spring is, leaf spring suspension, rather than air ride.

    Edit to add: most truck front suspensions are leaf spring suspension.
     
  7. Odin's Rabid Dog

    Odin's Rabid Dog Heavy Load Member

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    If your compressor isn't gear driven it will be belt driven and you'll see the drive belt external to the compressor.
     
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  8. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    I get what you are asking, here is an air ride suspension illustration that may help.

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    This is the most common way the rear suspension is configured.

    The spring beam is where the axle mounts to and you can see the u-bolts.

    The following is a typical leaf spring suspension illustration.

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    the u-bolts are used to mount the axle to the springs.




    For your pre-trip, you will need to know about the major parts of the engine on the outside, fan and alternator belt, oil dip stick and so on, you will also need to know how to spot leakage.
     
  9. tnevin225

    tnevin225 Road Train Member

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    The biggest difference between the two is at the end of a long day with Rear leaf springs you will feel like someone beat the he** out of you.:confused:
     
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  10. Dkenos

    Dkenos Bobtail Member

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    My thanks all. Another question: During the video the instructor called out something called the overflow reservoir....is this just another name for the radiator coolant tank, or is this something else?

    Also, if anyone has any....what are they called...mnemonics? I think that's it. Those fun little ways they keep in mind all the parts for engine parts, would you mind sharing so I could add that to my studies?
     
  11. Odin's Rabid Dog

    Odin's Rabid Dog Heavy Load Member

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    A lot of repetition is a good way to learn the pretrip.

    I made flashcards, they were very helpful, too. I made one for each area, such as one card for "as I approach the vehicle", then another for exhaust, then under the hood left side, under the hood right side, etc.

    On the front of the card wad just the major area, on the rear were the details, such as, check for leaning, this could be caused by tire or suspension problems, or could indicate a shifted load.

    And then a LOT of repetition and practice.

    Luck to you.
     
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