alberta and spreads

This is kickinmyass here

From this Brithish columbia site
http://www.canlii.org/en/bc/laws/regu/bc-reg-30-78/latest/bc-reg-30-78.html#section7.16

It states...


Spread tandem axles

7.24 Despite Appendix A, a person may, without a permit, operate the semi-trailer of a 2-vehicle combination with a spread tandem axle, if the interaxle spacing between the 2 non-steering axles exceeds 185 cm but does not exceed 307 cm, provided that the sum of the axle weight for both axles does not exceed 9 100 kg.
[en. B.C. Reg. 95/2006, s. 3.]

In doing the math, we take 307 cm x .393700787 inches = 120.866141609 inches. Divide that by 12 and we get 10.07 feet.

My spread is 10' 1" which is exaclty 121". According to the above math, the max is 120.866141609 inches.

Just thought I'd throw that chitt out here for whatever it may or not be worth legal or illegal, or otherwise. Etceterola.....

Still confused as to whether a 10 1 spread is okay thru AB or BC

 

I may or may not have answered mine, or anyone elses question here.

Yes, no, maybe. Maybe not...

 

So a 10' 1" (10.083') is off by .013 of a foot?

If my math is correct.....

 

Roger.

121 in = 307.3 cm

 

Any western Canadiens here?

**echo**

Any western Canadiens here?

Just wondering who can fathom a guess why BC only allows 20,000 on a 10 1 spread. Do they have some kind of closed tandem lobby group with a great deal of money and influence with the transportation ministry, or wtf?

Cant recall if I've ever heard of anything that makes less sense than that one.

 

Ah yes, seperate axle group. That explains it. Thanks B

Okay, next question - What the fine per pound (or metric keelo unite') for over weight.

Wondering if a guy with a 10 1 spread could still run AB/BC and pay the fine' or buy an overweight permite' while running say 35,000 ish' and be good to go. Deep stuff eh?... grin

 

Here's the quick summary. A 10 ft spread is NOT legal in Western provinces of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta or B.C., due to these provinces signing an inter-provincial agreement in 1988 called R.A.T.C. (Now called T.A.C.)
In the past, they would go so far as to make drivers take the tires and wheels off one of the spread axles and chain up the axle, and let the trailer go with a warning if the single axle on the ground was not over 9100 kgs ( 20,000 lbs) after the other axle was secured in a chained-up position.
Recently, in B.C. at least, the spread axles are allowed to be on the ground as long as the total weight on both axles is not over the 9100 kgs maximun. That's 10,000 lbs per axle, half the weight on the trailer that would be allowed in the states. No overweight permits either, reduceable or not.
The rationale behind the rules comes from the theory that the spread-out weight causes extra road damage, much like you can see when some rookie does a tight u-turn with a spread on a hot day in a Flying J parking lot in Texas..
Hope this helps..

 

Thanks for the info....kind of. But you say a 10 spread "is NOT legal in Western provinces of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta or B.C."

Then you say... "Recently, in B.C. at least, the spread axles are allowed to be on the ground as long as the total weight on both axles is not over the 9100 kgs maximun"

I do trust you know what you're talking about, so perhaps we can chalk this up to typical misunderstandings of posts.

Let me phrase this.............

If I wanted to go from Wisconsin to Alaska with the truck and trailer in my signature (244 inch tractor wheel base - 48 foot reefer with 10 foot spread axle), could I do it legaly with the given dimensions?

This is a drop dead serious question that I need to know