Almost Brutally Honest

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Farmboi85, Jun 16, 2022.

  1. Farmboi85

    Farmboi85 Light Load Member

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    A family member of mine, with over 10 years of OTR experience, applied for a local dedicated position with one C.R. England about a week ago. Before we start judging, let's weigh out some things. It was home everyday, newer equipment, and actually decent money for what it was...I think he said it paid hourly. Now, we all know about England, so I'll get into the events. He responded to an add, and got, possibly, the most honest recruiter I've ever heard about. My cousin proceeded to answer the normal questions, as per the process. Then came "the question", HOW MUCH DRIVING EXPERIENCE DO YOU HAVE? The response my cousin received after answering this question is worthy of applause. The recruiter with "you have more experience than we usually look for. We normally cater to recent CDL school grads, or people seeking to get a CDL." He ended up offering my cousin a job, but, basically, made it clear he wouldn't be happy there. I don't know if the recruiter was having one of those days where he just didn't have any to give, or what. This got me thinking...I believe every carrier could have a place in this industry. WHAT IF carriers would advertise to their target audience? Hear me out...Carriers like England, Schneider, USX, ect, could advertise as being a "stepping stone company." I know there are drivers that make a career at these companies, but for the most part, we know what they are. It would make finding a job so much easier, and I honestly think it could work. These are just my thoughts, but what do you guys think?
     
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  3. MysticHZ

    MysticHZ Road Train Member

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    It was probably less being honest, than recruiter understanding CRE's rep, being surprised someone with experience would apply.
     
  4. Getsinyourblood

    Getsinyourblood Road Train Member

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    I just had a friend get hired by FedEx, home daily.. Your family member should try there.
     
  5. JoeyJunk

    JoeyJunk Road Train Member

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    Large or Crappy Mega’s usually have decent home daily gigs.
     
  6. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    You can generally get a good idea who the targeted audience is by the advertising.
    “We treat you with respect, like a person instead of a number, like family”=candidate has no self respect.
    “Competitive pay”=bottom of the barrel drivers.
    Some advertisements in the magazines cater to women, some cater to fat folk, some cater to neckbeards.
     
  7. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Us introverts have been waiting for society to make more sense for thousands of years. It's not going to happen. Any god idea, like companies using clear labels will be quickly perverted by the marketing and recruiting team for short-term gains. It's like wanting women to wear a name tag with her expectations, or mention early in an initial conversation if she is available, interested in you, if she has low/high expectations, and how many years of full-time psychological counseling will make her "normal". Since the outcome is most important to the company and the employee, both need to extensively interview each other and make their own decision. Buyer beware, to coin a phrase.
     
  8. chalplec

    chalplec Light Load Member

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    Absolutely. And they always downplay the local gigs. I worked for Roehl. You wouldn't see checks over $1,000 even if you ran 3,300 miles. But the local guys I knew were taking home $1,200-1,500 a week. They weren't doing hard labor local work either like the Sysco and US Foods jobs. They were just terminal/drop yard based and were taking loaded trailers to be delivered or picking up from local shippers to bring back to the yard for OTR guys to take out. When a driver I went to their CDL school with applied for one of the local jobs his FM told him how bad the local gigs were and that they don't make any money. I told him how that was a flat out lie but he wouldn't listen to me and went local elsewhere. On his 3rd local gig now. I keep telling him to go local for Roehl or another mega where he lives these small local outfits that want you to do all this extra P&D stuff with driver unloads isn't worth it.
     
  9. SoulScream84

    SoulScream84 Road Train Member

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    Let me get this right, you expect recruiters to be honest? This guy was a 1 off who likely had already gave his notice of quitting, and his field of F was barren. Recruiters typically get incentives for each arse they put in a seat; their job is to lie, misinform, or digress in whatever manner necessary to get you to take that job.
     
  10. DRTDEVL

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    Different companies have different recruiters and different methods of compensation. Our company has a salaried recruiting department. Keep the trucks filled, advertise for positions, and try to keep the drivers happy through continuous improvement (not in the sense of manufacturing; i.e. efficiency, but continually trying to improve the work environment for the drivers, seeking feedback and adding amenities they would like to have rathe than feel-good tokens that are rarely appreciated). Its also a 1.5 man recruiting team, they could put 12 drivers in trucks in a year or 12 in a month (holy crap, we'd have to buy more trucks after a week of that), but the recruiter's pay remains the same.

    Because the broad scope of keeping drivers happy, thereby retained, it would be against the best interest of the recruiting team to lie, cheat, misinform, or digress in any way, as the unhappy driver leaves quickly, making his job harder. Get one happy driver, however, and that truck remains filled for a long time.
     
  11. SoulScream84

    SoulScream84 Road Train Member

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    Those kind of companies aren't typically advertising or doing mass advertising filling up the airwaves. The ones I'm referring to are the ones who are advertising on every medium a driver might access while "here you're a name not a number", "we'll give you the respect you deserve", etc... as @TripleSix said it's at a targeted audience, and I'll go so far as to say most of them are barely steering wheel holders.
     
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