Almost there but need more info

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by bp88, Mar 24, 2016.

  1. bp88

    bp88 Light Load Member

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    Okay, 27 y/o started driving 2.5 years ago (mainly flatbed and some dry van) and saved up the cash for a pretty nice used truck. Before I drop the cash I want to do some more research and make a few connections. Plus, I still want to save enough for the other start-up costs and an emergency fund. I'm in SoCal and plan on pulling containers out of the port after I learn the ports well enough and meet some people with this upcoming hourly job. I've been told going rate is $275 +FSC for drayage containers and most guys average between 2 and 3 a day. I've talked to some people with good customers who allegedly make more $ per container when they haul them further inland.

    Are there any port owner-ops here who can recommend a good company to lease a truck to?

    How much cash should I have before I consider purchasing?

    What's a solid equation to calculate operating costs per mile or whatever UOM for port driving? I know there are variables and you'll never know the actual numbers until you start but an average would be a nice starting figure to get an idea.

    I'm absolutely serious about this and not just tire kicking. I know I can do it but I want to wait until I'm absolutely ready and have my #### squared away.

    From reading and speaking with others a daycab or midroof 2012+ Cascadia with a DD13 is best choice for a starting truck. If anybody can suggest another good starting truck to look for please let me know. I REALLY want a KW or Pete but boy are they pricey.
     
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  3. Robert85006

    Robert85006 Medium Load Member

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    I'm curious: why a KW or Pete?...Freightliner not going to get the job done? I'd probably find a solid Mack truck to use as a drayage truck, they are pretty bullet proof, that's why you find a lot of older Mack trucks around.
     
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  4. bp88

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    I just like the way the Paccar trucks ride and look. Not saying the Freightliner or anything else wouldn't suffice. Haven't really looked into Macks but I will now. Thanks for the quick reply
     
  5. Robert85006

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    Financially, I would start with as much $$ as you can get your hands on....you can never have too much $, especially when the rear ends, engine or turbo takes a dump on you. Make sure you have access to a reputable mechanic you trust. Tighten things regularly and get as many cans a day as you can legally haul. Repeat over and over and success (may) eventually follow.

    I started my trucking company in Anaheim, CA but have since moved out of CA because CA is very anti-business, especially to trucking. My orange tractor is a 1996 that runs better than most brand new trucks and it has 1.7 million miles on the clock. I can't even bring her back to CA for a single load. Pitiful.
     
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  6. Hype6477

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    ;) we can meet at the california line and I will bring it in for you
     
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    Hype6477 Light Load Member

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    True the further you go the more they pay but the less loads you do. Any place that has a FSC fee I stay away from. Honestly I would prefer them to keep it and not tell me they get paid a FSC. ( I can explain that more if needed )

    Yes PM me last time I recommended someone they deleted my comment cause they said I broke a rule.

    As much as you can save.

    Huh what's UOM? I never heard of that abvreation before.

    Ok so here is how I see it, if you are going to be making a payment do it for something you like.
     
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  9. bp88

    bp88 Light Load Member

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    Thanks for the reply Hype! UOM = unit of measurement. I know most owner ops go by cost per mile but with port trucking I'm not sure.. I'd imagine it's the same or very similar though.

    Sent a PM
     
  10. Hype6477

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    I live and work in SoCal, been doing dryage work for about 2 years and I never heard of that. Anyways I hate going to the ports lol. If I have nothing else going for me I go to the ports. The ports are packed, other drivers cut in front of you to try to get there loads and the waiting game to get your load. I would get a truck with a sleeper if you are going to do ports primarily. This is what I do. I figure out the cost of going from my yard to the ports and, back to my yard I save that figure as A. Calculate your fuel cost from port to customer ( or from customer to port if they have an empty). Now get the gross for the move and subtract your fuel costs. Always calculate your fuel cost, don't bobtail to the port or customer unless you need to.

    now subtract the total you made from the total you spent in fuel and that what you made a day. I like to go a step further and divide what I made by the hours I work so I know if I made more or less then the guy I bought my burger from.
     
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  11. Robert85006

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    I could get my lease terminated for double-brokering a load.....sorry Driver!!!...LOL
     
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