Alternatives to Trucking

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Tip, Mar 19, 2008.

  1. Working Class Patriot

    Working Class Patriot Road Train Member

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    My advice if you're going in after the "Big Iron", don't be afraid to run a backhoe, a stomper, a roller ect... I know so many operators who refuse a job because they're not on some big excavator, blade, pan, or dozer. That's one thing about the operators I don't get. The only pay differential is on cranes with Tower pay and boom pay. Everything else IIRC, is the same. If you can't find a job running a D12 high-track, don't be ashamed to run a Case 690.
     
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  3. TrooperRat

    TrooperRat Medium Load Member

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    Heavy equipment operators in these parts make pretty good money - at least if you think $23 plus per hour is good money. Problem is, the housing slump has hit the construction industry hard and - a lot of people are getting laid off. Those companies now can be as picky and choosy as they want to be when it comes to hiring operators. I have personal relationships with several of these contractors - they won't just hire Joe Blow, at least not right now. Perhaps this isn't true all over the country, I dunno. I talked with a construction foreman last year who said his brother was making $35 per hour union wages in New York operating a giant excavator.
    Actually, I learned how to operate a backhoe and a trackhoe - it's pretty interesting work if you like that kind of thing!
     
  4. Tip

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    Hmmm. I have an idea. Hear me out here, fellow posters.

    1. I , the cowboy and indian that I am, decide to go to a heavy eq school someplace. I learn how to operate everything from the D-11 to the Case 690 and even the Oliver 550. I even learn how to sweep with a big broom there.

    2. I graduate with flying colors (because I'm a hard worker with a good work ethic) and find a job somewhere on some construction site.

    3. Knowing that construction is a seasonal occupation, I go on eBay and get a Toyota RV that has a shower, stove, and other "amenities".

    4. I live in the RV while I work at these jobs and I move from place to place throughout the year. It'd be sort of like living in a Freightliner.

    Well? Do you think this idea will fly?

    The problems I see is the RV may handcuff me to a life of moving around. Maybe I'd want to stay at a particular job for a few years. Also, where do I park it? The nearest RV park could be 75 miles away from the job site. If I ever wanted to go on vacation, I may have to take my big baby to a friend's place possibly hundreds of miles away. I wouldn't want to just leave it sitting out in the middle of nowhere all by its lonesome.

    This may work if I knew some answers.
     
  5. Tip

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    I myself am a toothpick tester for a Fortune Five Billion company. I think it ranks around 4.99999 billion on the list. I also design totem-pole-style toothpicks at this job. It's amazing what some people fall in love with. Some people collect those little Russian dolls. Others collect stamps or Rock 'em, Sock 'em Robots. Still others collect Briggs and Stratton engines or locks of hair that once belonged to the rich and famous. People are strange.

    Let me hook you up with some trophy toothpicks.
     
  6. rockee

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    Actually that is done all the time in the construction and electrical trades, follow the work. You dont have to stay in an RV park to live in a RV, it just depends on what your set up is. The (mostly) amenities that RV parks offer are water/elec hookup and sewer, which are most important to an RV'er, then alot of parks also have showers and laundry, game rooms and that sort of stuff. Way more enjoyable than living in a truck.
     
  7. mandiesel

    mandiesel Light Load Member

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    Let's face it,any kind of trade will get boring or you just simply want do something else after you do it for year and years wether it's construction,trucking,manufacturing etc etc.Like the saying goes variety is the spice of life.
     
  8. Tip

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    Very true, very true.

    Best not to fork over anything at all for training. Get a grant or don't get it, unless it's very cheap. One never knows when the bottom will fall out or he'll get bored with it.
     
  9. chief

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    who cares? wages in trucking are going to become depressed to the point to where you might as well be handing out shopping carts at sprawl mart. it's already pretty sad if you look at what most truckers make on an hourly basis. millions of careers were yanked out from under us when our manufacturing was destroyed, then those people all went to truck driving school. as soon as they get Hose and Manuel and Domingo to habla, we'll be pushed out of trucking too. then what is the gringo going to do to make a living? hope all of us are ready to live in the turd world sewer that America is becoming.
     
  10. Tip

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    The rust belt was allowed to happen. This is because America the beautiful was getting too rich for her piggy bank. Too many people had it too good back in the day, so the powers put a stop to it.

    Their reasoning went like this: when the average Joes have the wealth, they would rather stay home and not work. When workers don't work, immigrants must be brought in to do the work lest the wagon breaks down. When the immigrants from places like Mexico are stopped from coming in, the work is taken to them.

    The powers simply saw too many Joes were getting too well-off and nipped their life-of-Reiley lifestyles in the bud. Job losses, outsourcing, losses of living standards, and decling workers' personal earning power are all things that were allowed to happen. These trends were planned, after all.
     
  11. Working Class Patriot

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    Honestly. do you all think there is conspiracy against you? Look around you, it's a WORLD ECONOMY. The US won two world wars and saved half of the world through its social programs. Well guess what, all of those people who normally would live out their lives in third world poverty conditions are competing against you and I. 30 years ago if someone told me that I would be buying Red Chinese products, I would have told them to go pound sand. China now manufactures the majority of products and parts we buy. Go into a trucking supply shop and ask for chains and binders, The first question the clerk will ask you: Do you want American or Chinese?.

    People are complaining because they're making only $30K a year, the average Chinese worker makes *"$0.57 per hour, or $104 per month"

    *http://www.manufacturingnews.com/news/06/0502/art1.html

    China is fast becoming a consumer nation and because of that Walmart, McDonald's, and KFC have moved in to take advantage and profit.

    That's just China. What about India? India is right behind China. Brazil? Well Brazil has become 100% ENERGY INDEPENDENT. Yes that's right, they do not depend on the middle east, Canada, or Russia for their energy. They found and drilled for their oil http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58682

    They use sugar cane for energy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_Brazil

    All this taking place while we "##### and moan" about our problems. While we are crying in our cereal, the rest of the world and btw that's what Wall Street calls them R.O.W. (as in REST OF WORLD), are working very hard to become what we once were.
     
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