am i wrong to insist on training pay

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by ad356, Jul 28, 2018.

  1. GoldDot40

    GoldDot40 Light Load Member

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    When you are paid by the load, time is money. Training a person thoroughly and correctly takes more time by default. I average 3-4 loads per day.

    When I train, you can easily only have time to haul 2 loads...that's taking money OUT of my pocket. To compensate, my company pays a guaranteed "training pay" to anyone that is training a new hire. That pay averages about $50/day more than what I make on an average day by myself.

    In my opinion, that's the way it should be.
     
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  3. ad356

    ad356 Road Train Member

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    the first few days when i have to explain loading, sampling, milk tickets, wash tags, seals, ect ect it does indeed take longer. if a trainee is driving he is going to drive slow, myself hammer down; not fast enough to attract law enforcement but make good time. i run 60 in a 55. the other day when i let him drive he was doing 50 in a 55. 10 mph difference is ALLOT over the course of a day. my thing has always been im getting paid by the day so be as efficient as possible without getting yourself in trouble. when winter comes that goes out the window and its more about safety of the truck and general public.

    when im done with this trainee i will have a polite discussion with my boss. either he gives me SOMETHING for training or i politely decline to train. he has told me that i do a great job, dont screw up equipment and dont cost rejected loads. he has had several farmers call him and tell him what i great job im doing. he says he almost never gets that. most people have the attitude they wont get fired so they do what they want. he really doesn't fire too many people and you have to screw up very badly. he has a hard time keeping seats filled, it does in a way make me believe that there is some form of a drive shortage.

    any job worth doing, is worth doing well. if anyone were to ask him about me, he would have no reason to say thing except that i do a great job..... i need to go home with a clear conscious every afternoon.
     
  4. line

    line Medium Load Member

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    You sound like a good hand . Why are you wasting your time working for that guy
     
  5. Western flyer

    Western flyer Road Train Member

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    Old ad356 at it again.
    I've hammered you just as much as the next
    Guy on here on multiple threads.

    But I'm with 100 percent on this one.
    There's a reason why trainers are paid a few
    Extra bucks.
    It's one big dam headache that you don't need.

    I hire on as a driver,not a trainer.
    I don't even want the chump change they
    Try give me for training.

    There's nothing in it for you but a miserable
    Days work.
    I'm guessing that none of the other drivers
    Will do it, so he keeps dumping them on you.

    This is your first chance to make a stand.
    We've all done it.
    Sometimes you win, sometimes you have to
    Turn in the keys to make your point.
    This won't be the last battle either.

    Every time I open a gallon of milk I think
    About you. I chug it down with a smile
    Knowing that you done your proper
    Milk testing when loading it. Lol.
     
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  6. IluvCATS

    IluvCATS Road Train Member

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    Maybe you’re actually training your replacement and unfortunately you are the last to know..
     
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  7. BrandonCDLdriver

    BrandonCDLdriver Road Train Member

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    Ozark pays 75 per day plus you get full pay for every mile the truck drives, whether you or your student drives it.

    While training me my instructor was taking home 2800 dollars a week.
     
  8. ad356

    ad356 Road Train Member

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    Yet another driver I trained a few months ago put in his two week notice. That means I have trained 5 and so far only 1 is sticking around. I'm no longer going to be the tool my boss uses to combat a serious retention issue. He is wasting my time with no benefit to me. No more.
     
  9. spindrift

    spindrift Road Train Member

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    Find out where those four drivers went. Maybe that's your opportunity. Bottom line, you should be paid for the extra work and the folks in this thread dumping on you simply don't understand the milk biz. OTOH, you should have learned by now that complaining isn't the way to go.
     
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  10. Hulld

    Hulld Road Train Member

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    I tried to explain the milk business to some in this thread but it appears to have fell on deaf ears.
    Or maybe blind eyes is more appropriate...
     
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  11. Dumdriver

    Dumdriver Road Train Member

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    Fair points, all of them. But as a trainer (I’ve done my fair share of training, but never in the milk biz- not drop and hook though, we unload every piece) isn’t it your job to watch over him and not allow him to make those mistakes that will cost you hours to fix?

    Sure, watching over him adds a little time. I get it. Really, I do. But as a good trainer you know where your trainee is at and you make sure he doesn’t make that “fatal” error.

    I respect your opinion, and your reply was awesome. Well thought out, explained great etc etc. thank you. But a good trainer won’t allow a trainee to make that mistake that sets them back 3-4 hours. The milk biz is tough, I get that. But it’s no tougher than any other driver unload business. When proper procedures aren’t followed poop hits the fan. It doesn’t take 3-4 hours to prevent poop from hitting the fan. In any biz
     
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