am i wrong to insist on training pay

The extra time spent is for training not undoing trainee mistakes.
Many mistakes in the milk business are not correctable.
Here’s another scenario I did milk hauling many years ago and for many years after have done car hauling.
I can load all the decks , set all the deck clearances and strap down every car at four points on my 6 car trailer in about an hour and sometimes less.
When I trained my son with hands on training it would take up to 3 hours to load the same load the same way.
Car hauling is also like milk hauling in the respect that a lot of car hauling mistakes can not be undone,
only money can fix them.
I assume as a trainer you get paid extra for the extra work that you do?
The op is just asking for some compensation for the extra work his doing much like every other trainer in this industry receives and is entitled to.

 

I'm with you ad356 all the way on this one.
Not that's it's gonna make a bit of difference
To your boss.

 

@Ridgeline, training another driver is above and beyond in my opinion. There is considerable extra risk, both professionally and personally and additional responsibility. You (the employer) are asking me (the employee and trainer) to take a stranger whom I do not know from Adam's off of out onto today's highways and turn that stranger into a respectable driver.

I know nothing about this stranger. I do not know the skill level, the experience level, nor the personal attitude or behavior. All I know is this stranger has convinced YOU that he's qualified.

I will NOT take that risk without additional compensation. As the trainer, I bear the responsibility of that stranger screws up while he's assigned to my truck. So if you want me to train, then we need to discuss the revised compensation package BEFORE I take a trainee. And if we cannot come to a satisfactory agreement as civilized gentlemen, then I will not take the risk.

 

first, (and from reading others comments)....no one here is actually teaching a new employee how to drive, as he or she ALREADY PASSED a CDL road test at thier states DMV and got thier CDL.

all one is doing is really "showing them" the route and how things are done, in regards to paperwork, maybe how to set up the tanker, and that's basically about all.

the new employee, is ENTIRELY on his/her own for wrecks, speeding tickets, etc,etc.

everyone here (from gathering my opinion on this) seems to think that all fate rests on the driver, SHOWING the new employee, everything under the sun, and that just ain't so.

i have to believe, I JUST HAVE TO BELIEVE, that nearly EVERYONE HERE, when he/she FIRST got hired, went out with another employee to be "shown the ropes"...

but many of you here, are "assuming" that the new employee (as in the case of the o/p here), is being trained from square number one, with a CDL permit, classroom training, and testing, and that JUST AIN'T SO....!!!!!!!


the o/p of this thread, and my God, so many others, has done NOTHING over the course of his postings, COMPLAINED about his employer, time after time......

he was HIGHLY ADVISED, time after time, to GET OUT and go someplace else, yet he stays...telling me that he is a "glutton for punishment"

not too many of us here, would have put up with the FIRST thing he complained about, long, long ago, we would have ALL BEAT FEET outta that employer....!!!!

 

Don't Listen to some of these clowns on
Here telling you it's part of your job.
Like your supposed to hop in the passenger seat
And let a complete stranger take control of your
100,000 lb rig and put your life in their hands
For absolutely nothing.
There not the ones that have to deal with it.

There sitting in thier own truck by themselves
Because they won't do the training nightmare.

These are the same guys who would never
Be a trainer even with the extra pay.
I'll say it Again, if I'm going off the side of a cliff
I'm gonna be behind the wheel when it happens.
I'm not gonna let some other guy kill me.

 

oh contre Pierre, hold the bus Gus, i did train (show someone) routes a time or two, no biggie, it WAS a part of the job. just like "showing them" how to set up doubles.


the o/p was only "showing" the newbie the route and what to expect, he WAS NOT teaching him to drive, stop, turn, brake, etc.