Amazon from Chester VA to Balt. MD

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  1. Moneyleg

    Moneyleg Bobtail Member

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    I want to haul Amazon loads back and forth from their fulfillment centers in Chester, VA and Baltimore, MD. Anyone have a handle on how much that run pays each way? Most importantly, how does someone begin hauling Amazon loads?
     
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  3. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    VA 10 to 95 N through richmond until 301 bridge, bypass DC on 301 to 97 baltimore. Around 4 hours 170 or so miles.

    If you could do this twice a day round trip, call it 320 miles per trip with one more trailer delivered in a drop/hook situation without having to live load or unload you can probably spend (490 miles) 85 gallons in fuel call it 250 dollars for the work on the three loads at 3.00 a gallon.

    Your tractor probably requires at least 1.50 a mile to at least more than break even in it's costs. 2.50 a mile would be nice. $1250 a day gross. Minus 250 for your driver gross pay each day. If you teamed two drivers you can double the trips per 24 hour period. Paying around 500 to 700 dollars for two drivers at .50 cents a mile to each. Based on 2.50 a mile. Your profit is still 200 300 dollars per day.

    I guess truck payments a few thousand per month would be covered as will your other expenses.

    I don't know, your haul length is shorter than 750 miles which may be a old drayage rate which might not work out to the nice numbers I write.

    Amazon is very intense. Their delivery drivers cannot even sit for 5 minutes without being hounded to move or get fired. I don't know what is expected of 18 wheelers running between two DC's dedicated. Im assuming you want to run a sleeper truck instead of a day cab for the chance to have two drivers teamed.

    Once you get on this Amazon, you cannot stop. So this would be a good long term situation.
     
  4. Moneyleg

    Moneyleg Bobtail Member

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    x1Heavy,

    Do you haul for Amazon? If so, how does a guy with one truck haul for them since they currently only allow fleets of 3 trucks or more?

    Moneyleg
     
  5. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Via brokers while that lasts. Amazon is working hard to cut brokers out of the picture. Good luck with it. Rates on it are dropping fast. Direct from Amazon the rates are pathetic. Have you seen the contract? It was posted publicly here.
     
  6. mp4694330

    mp4694330 Road Train Member

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    Call them, but I keep hearing that is not possible to go around 3 trucks minimum requirement...
    Also it is old flyer so states they recruiting could be different now.
     
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  8. Pintlehook

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    I bet @miss elvee could shed some light on Amazon freight. I'm also betting it's a pretty dim situation for the Driver/Owner.
     
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  9. miss elvee

    miss elvee Heavy Load Member

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    Our company worked with Amazon Transportation, which is probably where(?) this ad came from.

    I ran our fleet and went from being really excited and truly pumped about the opportunity to this:

    I have never worked with a more disorganized shipper in my life. Calls and emails 24/7. Where is this truck (enroute because you can never load my guys on time)- why isn't someone here (that's not our load) - Is this load covered - And then they call 4 more times asking the same question. It was enough to make a person yank their hair out. If you refuse to answer the phone, they give you a nasty talking to.

    You have to run your own DOT, which means covering all your own stuff at market, instead of a large fleet discount for insurance, fuel, et al.

    Now, I could deal with that IF I was given enough miles for my trucks. Weekly plans came out on Thursday. 1k to 1500 miles per truck at below market rates for short hauls. Yep. You read that right. I emailed, called, cajoled, begged, pleaded, ran sweeper on rescue loads... you name it. I couldn't beat a red penny of profit out of them.

    I finally got my company owner involved and he made some calls. After making enough noise he was told flat out: "People don't do business with Amazon to make money. They do business with Amazon to say they are doing business with Amazon." We pulled out less than 60 days later when I could rehome all my drivers.

    Four of the five other contractors we started with in that market had already left.

    I will say this again: I would not involve myself, my business or certainly my livelihood with such a clown car outfit ever again.
     
  10. Moneyleg

    Moneyleg Bobtail Member

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    Thanx for the Intel, miss elvee!
     
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