amount of hrs you have to have off after a 14hr shift - Texas

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by hardworkinman, Mar 26, 2014.

  1. hardworkinman

    hardworkinman Light Load Member

    I do work in the oil field, my truck does not have a sleeper, sometimes I am waiting, and according to what I just read in certain circumstances you can go on waiting of duty time however it says you can't be onshift more than 14 hours once you start your shift so it kind of contradicts itself and it seems like there's a huge gray area that I don't want to get caught up in. It has sections for working 60 hours then sections for working 70 hours. It also says you can work 1 16 hour day per week or 70 hour period.
    I wanna be the one who knows what I'm talking about when my driver manager asks me to work a 16 hour day or calls me to come in after only having 4 hrs off. I don't necessarily wanna find out from the driver manager who is trying to run people 24 hours a day if they will let him.

    I guess my real question is: Is there perhaps one simple go to phrase or response that you can use that will prevent you from breaking the law or having to falsify your log book or sounding like some douchebag that doesnt wanna work?
     
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  3. hardworkinman

    hardworkinman Light Load Member

    oh and also can someone clarify the hundred mile radius section?
    Does that mean you can work more than 14 hours a day?
    Does it mean you're totally exempt from having a log book as a Class A or B driver?
     
  4. UTurn1

    UTurn1 Heavy Load Member

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    Please re-read your CDL manual and the green book. Also you may want to get together with one of your fellow company drivers. One of the most talked about problems in this industry is lack of training and these questions prove that to a point.
     
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  5. orangepicker

    orangepicker Road Train Member

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    just stay in the sleeper and you wont ever break any rules
     
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  6. GA_Rookie

    GA_Rookie Medium Load Member

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    I have been told that the magic words are "Safe" and "Legal". If they are trying to run you illegally, then you say something like "I can't safely and legally drive due to my HOS restrictions." That usually gets the job done, and them off your back.
     
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  7. Arky

    Arky Heavy Load Member

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    The regulations my be confusing, but you'll have to get past that... and quickly. You may or may not be in an area where there is much of a DOT presence. DOT seems to leave the oilfields alone to some extent. The problem is...the DOT is the least of your concerns. In the case of an accident, the lawyers will do you much more harm than any DOT officer ever will. You are liable for the operation of the truck. You will be expected to fully understand those regulations and abide by them...or suffer the consequences.

    So... your doing the right thing by asking. Now...you need to do some research. You need to find out exactly where you fit into those regulations and then study what applies directly to what you are doing. You are correct in not taking your driver managers word for it. If your company has a safety director....start there. You will still have a lot of research and verification to do. Oilfield regs and exemptions confuse a lot of people... even the people who are paid to understand them. But... in the end... YOU are responsible for the legal operation of the truck.
     
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  8. Big Duker

    Big Duker "Don Cheto"

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    If you can't understand the written word and listen to others tell you in most situations it's 10 hrs off then maybe you shouldn't be driving a large dangerous vehicle. There are some oil and other exemptions. If you find yourself if one of those situations it will be spelled out for you.
     
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  9. Sonicboom54

    Sonicboom54 Bobtail Member

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    mandatory 10 hour break after your 14
     
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  10. RubberDuck198

    RubberDuck198 Light Load Member

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    If you drive a daycab you can't use the 8-2 split. You have to take 10 hrs off after a 14 hr day.

    In order for the 8-2 split to work, the 8 hr bracket MUST be logged on line 2 CONSECUTIVELY, and it's kinda hard to do that if you don't have a sleeper birth.
     
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  11. Moving Forward

    Moving Forward Heavy Load Member

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    There are a ton of rules that you need to understand, and it won't happen overnight... take the time and study! BTW, don't forget about the fairly new 30-minute break rule. In most cases, we must take a 30-minute break before we hit the 8-hour point in our current 14-hour clock.

    BTW2, you can indeed work more than 14-hours each day, BUT you can only drive 11 hours within the 14-hour clock. So as soon as you hit that magical 14-hour point, the rig generally needs to be shut down but you can still do "on-duty not driving" work... but I've also heard the oilfields have other rules/exemptions.

    Good luck with the learning process.
     
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