An intro and a question about drug testing.

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  1. boomer641

    boomer641 Bobtail Member

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    There will be a big “NOT FOR HIRE” sign painted on both doors.
     
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  3. boomer641

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    Yeah, I know about the CARB rules for a truck this old. I won’t be overnighting in any truck stops and there are no California weigh stations between the border and where I’m going to. I read the threads on this forum about this and from what I gathered I should be OK so long as I get in, load my stuff, and get out without any extra stops. I’m also considering just getting the 1,000 mile per year exemption and running a couple of loads out in December of this year and finish up in January of next year.

    I did look into the RV option but unfortunately I don’t have a sleeper on the truck. To set one up right now would take more work than I have time to do.
     
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    Everything that I’ve read on this and other forums indicates to me that I shouldn’t have any issues with CARB so long as I don’t go beyond the High Desert area of Cali. I’m going to the Victorville/Hesperia area and that is it. I won’t be going by any weigh stations in Cali.

    It’s also my understanding that a “not for hire” sign doesn’t have any legal meaning. In my case I just want it there just to reinforce what I’ll be telling my “friendly” DOT officer if the need arises. Hopefully it won’t. After I bought the truck I had it towed to a shop and had them do a full on DOT inspection and fix whatever needed to be fixed to get it to pass as well as look at the mechanicals of it and fix any issues it might have.. It cost what it cost but I’m confident that I’m driving a truck that is safe and roadworthy.

    Thanks for the info on the drug testing!! That was the one item that I had concern about how it worked. If it turns out that I have to put my name in for that it won’t be a problem so long as I’m not under some time limit to get it done.

    I’ve loaded and transported more machinery than I care to remember. LOL

    I’ve got enough straps, load binders/chains, edge protectors and real truckers tarps, (not those cheap ### blue tarps) to more than do the job. I go beyond the minimum requirements when I’m securing a load. The last thing that I want is to have something come off of my truck because I didn’t secure it properly.
     
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  5. boomer641

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    Thanks all for the information! It’s a big help!!
     
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    The fact that you chose the panhandle over Austin or Dallas told me you weren't, but I appreciate the reassurance anyway.


    Oh cool! I'd love to see some pictures the crawler and your other stuff someday, and I'm sure there's others around here that would appreciate it too.
     
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  7. ZVar

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    I would say this is probably the worse thing you can do. After all, trying to convince that officer on the side of the road and he sees log books, he might just take it in his head that since you are running logs you must be a commercial move. I mean why else would you be running logs?

    No, either be 100% personal or 100% commercial. Don't try and mix the two.
     
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  8. boomer641

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    You’re right. I need to go 100% on either one. Because of what I’m moving I’m better off just going all in on the commercial side of the rule book. It will be easier to do that than to try and convince the powers that be that a truck load of machine tools is just a hobby.
     
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    Here are a few photos of the International being delivered to my place. The under carriage looked to be in really good condition which is why I bought it. I paid scrap value for it. Unfortunately it has a fist sized hole in the side of the block where a con rod tried to make its escape. I found a replacement block for it so now it’s just a matter of getting the shop set up and pulling it in there to do the needed repairs.

    The other piece of equipment is a 1968 Euclid all terrain forklift. It’s an ex Air Force machine and it still has the loading instruction placard for a C-130 and C-141.

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  10. Accidental Trucker

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    Just remember there's a BUNCH of paperwork involved with becoming a DOT carrier: pre-employment drug test, driver qualification file (you have to give yourself a road test, lol), maintenance plan and records, IFTA, UCR, Heavy Vehicle Use tax (you'll be exempt). The list is fairly comprehensive.

    If you forego the commercial route, I'd put "non-commercial vehicle" on the door instead of "not for hire". We're not for hire, but most definitely commercial! I suspect the "not for hire" phrase comes from the ICC days where you had to have authority for each lane and commodity. It does NOT convey to anyone what you are looking to convey.
     
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  11. tscottme

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    It seems it would be cheaper to pay someone to move the heavy stuff than to buy and move everything yourself. Doing so also removes convincing DOT and drug testing questions.
     
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