Annual Inspection-Sticker = Good to Go?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Big Road Skateboard, May 17, 2025 at 7:29 AM.

  1. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    I've done likely several thousand inspections. But, that doesn't necessarily guarantee my methods were correct.

    During the inspection any defects or needed repairs were noted, as usual. Often, the repairs could not be made on location, customer doesn't have time to repair at that time, etc.

    But, the inspection is done. An annual inspection is not pass/fail. The sticker notes that the inspection was done, hard copy has details.

    So, Needed repairs get noted on the hard copy, sticker is placed, and hard copy goes in permit book or holder on trailer.

    When repairs are completed, those are noted on the hard copy along with the invoice # of that repair.

    An old employee called the other day, and he had a customer complain that he had stickered a unit that still had needed repairs, and that was against DOT regs. I disagreed, but could not find a definite answer to back that up.

    While certain companies often have more strict criteria, I still think my methods were correct.

    So it brought up the question.

    Since I've started driving, I've had several officers ask to see the stickers, but none have ever asked to see the hard copy.
     
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  3. gekko1323

    gekko1323 Road Train Member

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    It's been the opposite for me. They ask for the hard copy. I guess it's because I have stickers on both sides and are easy to see.
     
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  4. Long FLD

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    I’ve always only ever had the hard copy in the permit book, I’ve never put the sticker on any of the trucks I’ve had.

    Being leased to Tralo and FCC were the only times I didn’t do my annual myself, and even with the twice a year inspections at Tralo and the quarterly inspections at FCC I didn’t have anything that needed repaired.
     
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  5. Ridgeline

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    WRONG!

    it is exactly a pass or fail.

    So what? If there is a defect that does not pass inspection, the truck can not be used to haul until the repairs are made and documented - NO EXCEPTIONS!
    If you could not, then you should not to any inspections for any reason.

    396.17 is explicit.

    396.17(c) explains if there is a defect found in the appendix of the regulation, the truck can not be used for commercial purposes, PERIOD!
    They don’t care most of the time, if they do a level 1, the previous inspection is no longer valid.
     
  6. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    You are correct. I should have said, an inspection sticker does not guarantee a passed inspection.

    That was my question
     
  7. AModelCat

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    Not sure how it works there but here if the vehicle doesn't meet the CVIP inspection criteria then it doesn't pass. Can still be driven so long as the previous CVIP isn't expired although once the previous inspection expires then it's OOS until it passes.
     
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  8. Ridgeline

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    No, I think you have it wrong.

    The inspection sticker does not get ISSUED until the truck passes the inspection - period.

    The sticker is an indicator that the truck has passed the inspection based on the criteria listed in the appendix of 396.17, which are the same exact items listed in the CVSA list for a level 1.

    If you took into consideration anything like a crying owner or some driver who needed to get the load to the customer when you inspected the truck and issued the sticker, then you violated the regulations as an inspector.

    If you issued the sticker when there were any failure(s) involved, you violated the regulations as an inspector.

    You as an inspector if you issued one under the guise of it being just a list of repairs and that truck gets into an accident, those ambulence chasing POS lawyers are going to add you to the list of entities to sue - your shop, the owner(s) and you will be named and may lose in the court.

    It isn't even open for discussion, the regs are so black and white, they hurt to read them (sarcasm).
     
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  9. Ridgeline

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    Here if the truck does not pass inspection, it can not be used for commercial purposes until the repairs are done and a new inspection or documentation from the repairs are confimed and the sticker is issued at that point.
     
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  10. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    I looked up the Reg you quoted. Yes, it is quite plain. Copy and paste here in case anyone else questions.

    But, I would think as stated in this, if the vehicles previous inspection was within the last 12 months, they are still legal?

    My original question has been answered, and I appreciate the regulation #.


    (c)Click to open paragraph tools A motor carrier must not use a commercial motor vehicle, and an intermodal equipment provider must not tender equipment to a motor carrier for interchange, unless each component identified in appendix A to this part has passed an inspection in accordance with the terms of this section at least once during the preceding 12 months and documentation of such inspection is on the vehicle. The documentation may be:

    (1) The inspection report prepared in accordance with § 396.21(a), or

    (2) Other forms of documentation, based on the inspection report (e.g., sticker or decal), which contains the following information:

    (i) The date of inspection;

    (ii) Name and address of the motor carrier, intermodal equipment provider, or other entity where the inspection report is maintained;

    (iii) Information uniquely identifying the vehicle inspected if not clearly marked on the motor vehicle; and

    (iv) A certification that the vehicle has passed an inspection in accordance with § 396.17.
     
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  11. Ridgeline

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    No it is not valid. If the truck passes the new one brings it to another 12 months, if it doesn’t, the previous inspection is invalid because of the defects and the need to reinspect to make the truck legal to use as a commercial vehicle.
     
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