Another CB Shop Gets Busted By The FCC...

Discussion in 'CB Radio Forum' started by delta5, Apr 21, 2014.

  1. mike5511

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    I agree. I don't want to interfere with anybody and never transmitted on the Ham band..........and most of my radios will go there. And you are right, there aren't enough people on the CB anymore to field a 3 man basketball team.
     
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  3. BigBearNY

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    I am 53... When I was a kid I did transmit on ham bands. I honestly can't remember when I did this last, but it was decades ago. I have a few radios that I could but I just listen these days. Unfortunately activity is pretty low where I am listening, 10 meter, 2meter and 440.

    I frequently hear reports of high activity but when I chase them down I get disappointed. It's not like it used to be for sure. Locally on 2m there are occasional "drivetime conversations" and weekly check in for local amateur clubs. 440 is really rare. I think my age is the problem. When I hear high activity I guess I expect it to be like it used to be. The good old days are no more.
    I remember when Radio Shack was really for folks into radio!
     
  4. mike5511

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    Indeed. (58 here) The computer has taken over. I just retired and have several friends that are Ham operators. I plan to get my license also. 2 meter is where they hang out the most I believe. I'm going to set up a station just because. May not talk much on it, but I'll have it anyway, just because I can. I spend a lot of time in my shop and plan to just monitor the freqs while I'm out there messing around. I've got radios, CB and Ham, 2 MFJ antenna matchers, a couple of power supplys, a tower (about 36ft), one antenna (Sirio Vector 4000)..........just need to get busy and get it put up and add a couple more antennas........my neighbors are gonna love me! :D (including a TV antenna....gonna kiss cable good-bye!)....well I'm gonna keep the internet part of cable, but already ditched the land line and plan on axing the TV as well.
     
  5. BigBearNY

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    Got lots of projects myself... Have a Moonraker IV and an alliance HD73 Rotor. Have been toying with replacing the A/S Super Scanner already up on the 15' rooftop tower. But I am moving. Have had a back and forth inner battle about getting the ham license. I am moving in the next couple of years so I don't know if I want to set up too much where I am. Will be getting married and have aelrady been told to scale down the radio collection anyway. Might do some multiband wire setups for now... Eventually would like to have the Moonraker IV and Mod the super Scanner for 10 meters.... She said I had to get rid of some radios... Never mentioned antennas.... LOL!
     
  6. Gadfly

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    In what way? The majority of hams don't much bother with CB, so what is it these "poolizemen" are doing? Could it be that they are hearing people up on 28 MHZ and complain about that? Why shouldn't they get ticked off about that and report it? Oh, but "them 'channels' ain't being used so its OK for us to filch 'em". No its NOT!

    And, yes, most any action by FCC is caused by a complaint. If someone is being interfered with, on CB, ham, or the aircraft band, for example, they are going to complain. A splattering CB amp and a boogered-up radio (LOUD 'N PROUD, SNIPPED & CLIPPED) can produce harmonics (3rd to 5th harmonic) up into the aircraft band--which, btw, is also on AM. It's not very comforting to be on an airliner on approach with its avionics being blanked out. But OH! We must not "complain" about that!!! Why, them pilots are just a bunch of snitches! We's got to be "treetop tall an' blowin' smoke". How DARE anybody get upset about that? (Never mind that interference COSTS lives) And that's the rationale behind keeping interference to a minimum.

    Congress saw fit to reduce funding to FCC in the 80's. Thus, the complaint-driven enforcement. The police will complain about interference to their system. The fire department will fuss about interlopers on THEIR system. And, yes, CBers will complain to FCC about 'mauldroppers' and "channel hogs", too. Finally the hams will complain about licensees AND others who disobey the rules, cause trouble for others. How ELSE would you have 'em do it?
     
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  7. MsJamie

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    Not to mention that a lot of those "loud and proud" radios sound worse than an old drive-thru intercom with a blown speaker.
     
  8. RockinChair

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    All the more reason that CB should've been FM, or that amps should be manufactured by companies that will install the appropriate filtering.
     
  9. mike5511

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    Your first sentence is true I think. The rest of what you wrote goes along well with "wine and cheese". Most of us that talk to one another off of the forum suspect you and a few others are "those kind of Hammers". Ya'll get to giddy when another CB shop goes down. I agree with the loud and interfering operators, they are annoying. But some of you on here have a orgasm when a CB shop gets busted. Most of the hammers started out as CBers. With all the CB shops going out of business, for whatever the reason, just contributes to the dying out of all radio. I've got one of the old timers that lives near me. He has related to me many stories of shops that were busted because the local hams called in complaints on them. It is like eating your young and wondering why your species is dying out! CB shops never caused any problems, and neither did most of their customers. Just a select few that don't have good sense and a hammer somewhere will declare war agains anything CB...........and another shop goes down.
     
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  10. Gadfly

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    Can we not agree that there are far too many of these "fly by night" shops who really have NO true electronics knowledge and readily "snip and clip" stuff that shouldn't be snipped? Their clientele are those who 1) don't know better, 2) don't care if they mess up somebody else with a boogered-up radio, 3) and think that the dirtier and more sloppy the audio, the better they'll "git out". These OUGHT to be put out of business simply because they not only ruin drivers' expensive equipment, but create problems for not ONLY CB ops, but adjacent bands and beyond. Honestly, I have been on 12 Meters when there was this mysterious "shuffling" sound in the background. It wasn't "audio", but a kind of "hash" that modulated rather than stay constant. I followed it up the band until---YUP! One of those "loud 'n proud" Channel 6 "mauldroppers" with his filthy "leenyar". Heck, you could barely understand what he was saying at his fundamental(?) frequency, much less a channel or two away. At 24 MHZ it sounded like...........well, a shuffling, pulsing hash!

    You will find few hams "birddogging" CBers. We, and *I*, too, have better things to do than chase CBers or shops around trying to get them into trouble. With that said, IF hams find people on 28 MHZ, yapping away on AM where voice isn't even allowed for hams themselves, You durn skippy. Hams will report the fact in a Noo Yawk minute. But somehow due to the now unregulated nature of CB, EVERYBODY should be able to just come right on in and start yapping away without a "ticket" to the party. That seems to be the thinking of some in the CB community today.

    The thing about "dying species". It is one mythical attempt, usually from the CB outlaw crowd, to denigrate and belittle the amateur radio hobby in order to cover up its own ills and illegal activities. The numbers for amateur radio have remained about the same--with a few upticks---since the 1960's. It is NOT "dying". As long as there are curious people, there will be "hams". When it is regulated and encouraged, innovation and invention thrives! One thing for sure: True hams are not going to stand for the Service to be diluted and POLLUTED with nonsense that does nothing but harm to the radio art! And if it entails reporting some of these "clip joints" who sell illegal "leenyars", promote radios that allow band hopping, and snip and clip good radios.................so be it!:biggrin_25525:
     
  11. Turbo-T

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    I am in Missouri, and when propagation is at an all time high, (as it was last summer) yes all 40 will be noisy or busy. Usually signals all over the U.S. coming in, sometimes even from Canada or Mexico.

    Other times not so much, other than 6, 11 and 38 LSB....19 tends to be a blur

    They do make amps with filtering that would work on CB (with a little bit of modifications), but they're illegal for CB use and very expensive.

    Yes it would be nice if CB could be FM instead of AM, but FM is wider than AM, and I don't know if the technology in 1958 was advanced enough for CB to be on FM....heck they tried putting CB where GMRS/FRS (both of which are FM) is now, back in 1947....but as we know now, it didn't work at the time and was overly expensive....though had it of worked we wouldn't have all the problems we have now
     
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