another driver told me to dictate terms to the boss??

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by ad356, Mar 3, 2018.

  1. Western flyer

    Western flyer Road Train Member

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    There all bottom of the barrel.
    These are the jobs you take when have too many
    Tickets or accidents to get a real job.
    Or your wife has told you she wants you home
    Every night.
    Low pay,long hours,junky equipment.
    Fuel at the 7 eleven.

    Little to no benefits. No type of retirement and
    Your wife has to have a full time job for you to maintain
    The household.
    11/12/13 bucks an hour for that headache.
    Your better of stocking shelves at Walmart.
     
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  3. ad356

    ad356 Road Train Member

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    Otr job would have to pay double what I can make locally for me to even think about it. 100k per year. That's not a job but a lifestyle. Your asking me to not be with my kids and them to basically not have their dad around.

    Anyways have a good track record here. No accidents or damaged trucks by my doing. You are right about one thing without a doubt. One more month construction season opens as do my options. I will lay low for one more month then I'm going to start politely making demands. He is loosing another driver to a DWI, he goes to court tomorrow and that's gonna be the end for him. He actually got the DWI in one of my boss's rigs, yet my boss has kept him on right until the court date. He's hurting for drivers no question about it.

    I don't mind dump truck or dump trailer as long as my unpaid time stays to a minimum. Generally quarries don't keep you sitting. Generally construction jobs like paving are hourly.
     
  4. REO6205

    REO6205 Road Train Member

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    LOL...You go on believing that if it makes you happy.
     
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  5. Ridgeline

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    Cats, you have to offer more than a warm body to the owner in order for them to listen and the last time I looked we have a glut of drivers in the country.
     
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  6. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

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    OP so you have you learned what piece work pay is? It is management dumping the problems of managing on you. Since you are paid by the run, your equipment is beat, your customers spend all day screwing the pooch, and your co-workers are not a bit concerned what mess they leave for the other guy.

    Now the tough talking lunch counter crew wants you to man up, and wring your bosses wallet; good luck with that. He either knows what kind of operation he is running, and doesn't care. Or doesn't have a clue, and likes the way the money rolls in. Either way he doesn't care about you and he has the power in this situation.

    Does that mean I would be silent about the situation? Nope, I would politely pester him about every hour of yours wasted and spend the rest of your time looking for another job, because even if you get a couple of bucks out of him, things are not going to change.

    I know plenty of people that run dumps in season, make good money and benefits, and then either take the down season off, or run a crappy piece work job in the slow season. Repeat, year after year.
     
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  7. ad356

    ad356 Road Train Member

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    that's basically what i did. i ran dump until i couldn't and took this crappy job in the off season to keep driving. i really didnt have much intention of staying there. admittedly i probably have one of the better routes, some guys have it worse, allot worse. either way it still sucks. one of the drivers i trained who quit came back today. i asked him what made you want to come back, the answer i didnt want to and he plans on leaving again. seems like i can quit and come back at will when times are tough. my route keeps me OUT of the plants. milk plants suck.

    the trucks arent too bad but the trailers are fairly beat up. they maintain things from a safety standpoint, as far as image.... it seems to be a secondary consideration.

    construction is often times different then other types of driving. construction projects are state, town, and federally funded. you arent exactly pulling around worthless freight or agriculture products that might as well be a waste product. milk is now $13 per 100 lbs. yet its not that cheap to buy in the store, go figure. the stuff in the store has also been stripped down (a good portion of the butterfat removed). butterfat is what actually brings the $$. somebody is making money, its not the farmers or the haulers.

    anyways i called a construction company today and they start hiring mid-april, they also run salt so there is a strong possibility of winter work. that's really what i need, a construction company that will keep me going in the winter, so i dont have to work for crappy xyz milk hauling outfit.

    my boss has been running his organization like this for decades, he has had such a high turnover he couldn't get drivers to take "transport" loads. a transport load is just that. take an already loaded trailer to a destination, as opposed to farm pickup which is what i have been doing. he has lost millions of dollars in loads because of this. apparently he has increased his pay to some degree, because he was on the verge of losing his entire outfit. i think you guys are right, im not going to change him OR the system.

    to say that a local job is not a REAL job is absurd and it annoys me. i love driving truck, i feel like i am still an asset to the industry. trucks need to move. trucks of all different types. OTR is not a "one size" fits all CDL holder job. CDL does not have to immediately mean leaving your family for weeks on end. if i was single and wanted to see the country, sure; but i saw it for 8 weeks and saw enough of it. my place at night is at home with my children and wife.
     
  8. CrossettDriver

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    I think you just come on here to whine and cry , you act as if hauling milk is the only thing you can do in the winter.
     
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  9. ad356

    ad356 Road Train Member

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    i know milk is not the only thing i can do in the winter, i see allot of construction companies hauling salt in the winter.... which is what im thinking about right now.
     
  10. IluvCATS

    IluvCATS Road Train Member

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    The milk man needs to grow a pair and become the little dictator.
     
  11. Blackshack46

    Blackshack46 Road Train Member

    I ummmm make more money than being a door swinger at my last job, have full company paid bennies, 401k, home daily, work 50 hours a week.... allllll as a milkman. I also have a spotless record..... not a single ticket/negative inspection of any kind in my name.

    How am i at the bottom of the barrel at a $60k a year job?
     
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