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ANOTHER HOS question. 34 hr reset no counting???

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by skinnytrucker79, Feb 18, 2014.

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  1. Feb 18, 2014 #1
    skinnytrucker79

    skinnytrucker79 Light Load Member

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    Since I am typing this after I just got off a trip I will try to explain this the best I can before I go crawl in bed next to the wife.


    My week use to start on a Monday and end on a Friday. I would usually come back to terminal with about 20ish hours left in my duty cycle. Take my weekend off and come back Monday with a fresh clock.

    Recently I was asked to run on a few Sundays to start my week, Ok still 34 hours off. Go to log in and see I still got the same amount of Cycle time left as I had when I got home Friday. I thought I might of made a mistake. Forgot to log out or something. Since my load was messed up I just got to go home and still finish off my weekend which gave me a full clock when I came in.

    Now AGAIN. I take a load this Sunday (still 34 hours from when I came in Friday) and log into my system and AGAIN. I only had about 16 hours of Cycle available. I call the dispatcher and tell him my problem I might run out of hours and have to do another 34 ( I think) "Well it's a short run and you will be back home" ok. so I run out, deliver. take my 10 off and now I am down to 8:04 Cycle available on my way back.. Big snow storm hits so I park the truck since it's a 6 hour ride in good weather so I don't want to run out of time. I park it and just sit 10 hours waiting for the storm to pass. I log in. do all my stuff and I am on my way with 8:04 left..... I get a hour or so out and glance down at my computer and guess what.. I got almost 16 Hours available now!! How the heck did I get hours when I should be running out?

    So with that being said 2 main questions and the more someone can dumb it down the better.
    Am I just gonna screw myself in the middle of the week taking a load on Sunday or ignore the computer as long as I take a 34 before I start on Sunday. Each day I will gain hours?

    And How the heck did I get hours back?

    The company can't answer my questions. I hope someone here can. Now I am going to bed LOL:biggrin_25518:
     
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  3. Feb 18, 2014 #2
    mrbmg

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    After your 7 days you start getting time back. The hours you worked on the 1st day, you get back on day 8, if you haven't ran out your full 70. The minute you run out your full 70 you have to take a full 34 consisting of 2 periods of 1-5 am.
     
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  4. Feb 18, 2014 #3
    "Hang - Man"

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    I will take a shot at it till someone else chimes in,
    Did your 34 hr reset include 2 periods between 1am and 5am ?
    And i guess you know that you can only take 1 reset in 168 hr's from your last reset ?
    I am to lazy to try to figure out the times you listed.
     
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  5. Feb 18, 2014 #4
    not4hire

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    Resets are never mandatory. If a driver runs out of their 70, then they can still run on the recaptured hours when available.
     
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  7. Feb 18, 2014 #5
    DrFlush

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    You have to have 168 hours since starting your last reset to start a new reset, so if you got home and off duty at 4pm on Friday, you cannot start a reset the nest week until after 4pm on Friday. You must have two periods from 1am to 5am during your reset so if you start a reset at 4am Friday morning, your reset isn't complete till 5am Monday. Keep in mind these times are your company times, in my case I am leased out of Montana and live in NY so I have to adjust my times by three hours when at home. As stated above, since it seems you did not complete a reset your running off your recap hours from last week. It may be easier to explain if we knew your exact times you attempted to start and finish resets and if your timezone is the same at home and at the terminal.
     
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  8. Feb 18, 2014 #6
    Grouch

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    Need to forget about the 34 reset and log the "old time way". Picking up hours and dropping hours.
     
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  9. Feb 18, 2014 #7
    GA_Rookie

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    I find it interesting that the OP has been a trucker for 10yrs. Neither he or his company knows anything about HOS? Very Interesting. How does that happen?
     
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  10. Feb 18, 2014 #8
    kardolmer

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    Sound's like on sunday he is starting before 5 am.
     
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  11. Feb 18, 2014 #9
    Grumppy

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    Because there are all kind of drivers. For example, I drove a truck for Waste Management for 11 years & never went more than about 75 miles from home. I never spent the night in a truck stop or had to back into a dock. I never had to fill out a log book or keep up with this stuff.

    Later, I drove a delivery truck (18 wheeler pulling a curtain side trailer) for 5 years & was home every night. Most of my driving was within 200 miles. I still never backed into a dock & ran mostly two states. My home state of Louisiana & our neighbor, Texas. I did run a log so I had a lot to learn about logs.

    Now, I have my first driving job pulling a dry van which is new to me. Now I have to run in 5 states, back into docks & sleep in a truck stop occasionally. Now I have had to learn the differences of OTR & regional & local. Like sleeper berth time vs off duty time etc.

    There are all kinds of drivers & driving jobs. Every driver doesnt run OTR.
    As well, while its not really the same thing, I drove a fire truck for 8 years. Its still considered a tanker & you are in a big truck... maybe not for 11 hrs, but its still air brakes, its still 50,000 lbs, etc, etc. I also was the only one on my shift who drove the 5000 gallon, 18 wheeler tractor/trailer tanker. I never filled out a log book or spent the night in a truck stop or drove across state lines etc.
    So, just because a person isnt an OTR driver, doesnt mean he hasnt done local work etc... it still 10 years truck driving. Gravel truck, log truck etc.
     
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  12. Feb 18, 2014 #10
    superpet39

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    What if the OP has been a local guy his whole career?


    i have half the experience he has- yet I know LESS than nothing about HOS...... Know why?
    I've NEVER been OTR.

    (Not all people get their CDL's from OTR mills ;-) )
     
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