Another Interested Party.....Or Newbie

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Quasimotor, Dec 25, 2005.

  1. Quasimotor

    Quasimotor Bobtail Member

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    Hello Everyone,
    I've been lurking this board for a few, and I finally had to stick my head up and risk it being chopped off. I am one of those misguided individuals who is considering a career change and am looking at trucking.

    First though a little background,
    My family has been involved in the trucking business (in one way or another, mainly sand and gravel) for decades. My grandfather ran a sucessful sand and gravel operation in Tucson, and my uncles, father and one of my cousins have all ran OTR for perods of over a decade at a time.
    None of them would reccomend this line of work to me, however many of them stayed in it for a long time (kind of makes you wonder why?)

    Anyways, I was too young to take part in the sand and gravel operation before it was sold, and I dabbled a little with bobtail dumps when I was younger. Since then I have mainly been in construction (operating engineers apprentice, heavy equipment) and the automotive and motorcycle fields for more than 17 years. I currently own a small motorcycle parts business (mainly Harley Davidson Acessories). and my wife is a special education teacher with the local school system.

    I have one child (7 years old) from a former marriage, and realize I may be giving up valuable time with him and my wife for this calling.

    Here's what gives me the idea I want to try trucking.

    #1 I love the smell of diesel fuel and powerful machines (I loved running large scrapers and track hoes, but the hours and distance seemed about the same as you describe here, and well my ex-wife was a nag)

    #2 I've never had a at fault or preventable accident in a vehicle and have been driving since I was 13 in one capacity or another (rural upbringing).

    #3 I'm a terribly nocturnal person and seem to exist on 4-5 hours of sleep in general. I have to take perscription meds to sleep through the night. (I generally do this to keep from making my wife a wreck as she needs 8 hours of rest to function)

    #4 I find it easy in general to drive long distances in a single wack, and really never have had problems staying awake or keeping focused on my driving. (I have experience in all kinds of weather driving some that made my trucker dad cringe)

    #5 I am a solitary individual, a loner of sorts who finds the retail public an annoyance and crowds of people in a room make me nervous. However traffic doesn't seem to bother me.

    #6 I'm in a position where I could possibly sale my current business (which I am bored to death with) and possbily have some savings to fall back on for the first year of trucking which might be hard.

    #7 I'm just not a office or sales type of guy, I'm a t-shirt and grease under the nails kind of guy and I just can't fight it anymore.

    #8 I love the open road, I end up throwing my wife and son in a vehicle and just driving for enjoyment, they sight see, I drive I don't know why.

    #9 I have a heavy mechanical background, and well to be honest I am one of those guys who seems to be more in tune with noises vibrations and what I can do to and not do with a piece of equipment. ASE Certified as a Master Engine Machinist and general automotive tech. (but there's no way I would wrench again)

    #10 I have something inside me that want's to travel and see things, and I can't get it to go away.

    I'm going to be 35 in a couple of months, have a mortgage like everyone else, and no credit card debt or car payments (thanks to the housing market). I am not so nieve as to think it's a glamourous job, nor that it is an easy job. However, I'm still trying to find that right job for me in this life.

    Looking at the forum here, I've found tons of useful information. I am considering either obtaining my CDL via classes at the local CC or maybe a program like Sneider offers, however, I don't want debt and the 3k plus pricetag seems a bit steep and the reimbursement plan probably won't work for me. I would imagine like anyone else who hires on to one of the newbie friendly companies I will leave in 6 mos. to a year to find better miles, money or closer to home.

    So, with everything I've said, am I wasting my time? Or do I fit any kind of profile of a trucker? My wife said I was a happier person when I ran equipment, and well I could go back into that if need be. To me this is kind of along those lines, but a little more independant.

    Thanks in advance!

    P.S. I would imagine my wife will ride along on breaks, and heck maybe , just maybe we could team if I can show her the money in it. Lord knows she doesn't make much as a teacher, even with a masters.

    Jim
     
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  3. Quasimotor

    Quasimotor Bobtail Member

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    Oh I forgot to mention no troubles with the law (felonies or Misdemeanors) nor do I have any traffic citations in the last 5 years, oh and no drug abuse problems. I am ADHD however and take a ritalin type drug for that, but it's perscribed. In general a boring guy who learned a long time ago to stay out of trouble.

    My work history is going to be difficult as I have been self employed in one fashion or another for several years and haven't had to make a resume or fill out an application in a long time...
     
  4. PortlandDriver

    PortlandDriver RIP, May You Be Heaventown Bound!

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    The big reason that I discourage a person from driving is the long time in being away from home. If you want a family life this career is not for you.

    Now with the right carrier you can make good money and keep everything in balence. When I was on the road the only payment I had was the mortgage and a very small credit card bill. As long as you keep things in perspective you will do good.
     
  5. Aligator

    Aligator Light Load Member

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    Quasi....
    You're smart, confident,and decisive. I think you'll like trucking and be good at it. I am a late career trucker and I certainly enjoy it.

    You don't really have to be gone all the time.. There are lots of opportunities out there. :)
     
  6. TurboTrucker

    TurboTrucker Road Train Member

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    I think I can answer that. Trucking is one of those careers that will either agree with you, or it may not. For me, it has been something that I have become comfortable doing, although I have my moments in which I wish I had never stepped into my first truck. At times I thought I was fed up with it, I tried to do other lines of work, and I couldn't do it. I'm not an office type of person, and I am not cut out for working on a factory job either. The boredom overwhelms me.

    You describe a clean background and traits that would definitely lend me the confidence to say that you probably would make a good driver, and no reiteration need be offered. You would qualify for practically any entry option that you choose.

    Your local Community College is the best way to go, if that is the way you want to, but understand one thing about Schneider's plan. If you agree to work for a full year after your hire date when you complete all training, all debt for your training is considered paid in full. You will not be making any payments at all. In fact, you will start making a paycheck sooner than you would otherwise, albeit not that great to begin with, and you will benefit from some of the best training available. The full details can be found on this page:

    http://www.schneiderjobs.com/drive_inexperienced.html

    I think you fit the profile very well. The thought of independence is another sign that you'd like the job. Trucking requires very little oversight, and once you demonstrate the ability to get from one point to another on time, safely, and with little monitoring required, you will gain that sense of independence.

    Even with all of the evidence that supports your thinking that it may be for you, it will still be an adjustment, but one that you can make, based on what you offer. It also demonstrates to me that you have given this a great deal of thought. Hey...if you think you are ready to give it a go...then by all means do so.

    As far as I know, this should not be any problem. The thing I would advise you to do, is to consult with your personal physician, and make sure that there is no possible conflict of taking that drug or any others that you may be on, and operating a commercial vehicle. As long as he is willing to certify to another examining physician this assurance, then you should be good to go.

    Okay, that will complicate things a bit, but it's not something that cannot be overcome. You must be willing to offer and supply to a prospective carrier, copies of business licenses, proof of incorporation (if you did), statements from your bank to justify annual income, and/or complete income tax returns to account for all household income for the previous three years. I know this is a bit invasive and unusual, but this will clear up any doubt that you might be hiding something like a less than desireable employment reference, which is something that people attempt to do more often than you might imagine. If you head off any doubt with the offering of information that will prove your self-employment, you'll be miles ahead of the game.

    Background checks of all people that drive a commercial vehicle is mandated by the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration, and self-employment is one area where there is little way to reference it without giving up a bit more than the usual types of information to prove it. I would advise you to be prepared to offer it upon request on resumes, or offer a brief typed up statement stating the same thing with any applications you fill out, but only release copies of this information when you are sure you are interested in a specific company, and only when requested to do so by a company that is interested in you.

    I too, have had to do this, and as nervous as I have been about it at times, so far I have not had any information compromised as a result of releasing further info. But, I have always been with one banking institution my entire adult life, and they would know in a heartbeat if something were screwy, because I contact them with information as to any possible electronic activity in advance, and they will call me or my wife in a second if they smell a rat. Income tax returns? That's not a big deal. They might gain knoweledge of your previous income, and they already have your social security information on your application, so there's no big revelation in giving up a bit more info. If you set up direct deposit, they have your banking information too, so if dishonesty were going to happen, they will eventually have more than enough for someone to commit a crime.

    Most companies protect employee records under lock and key, so I'd say be cautious and careful, but relax at the same time.
     
  7. Quasimotor

    Quasimotor Bobtail Member

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    The one problem I see with Sneider is they don't have a school or terminal in my home state of AZ. I've read they have a better training program and looks like a little better compensation for newbie drivers than Swift or Werner, but the latter both have terminals close to home. Would this make much difference in my home time?

    I appreciate your information and comments.
     
  8. TurboTrucker

    TurboTrucker Road Train Member

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    Well... that is something that you should discuss in detail with the recruiting representatives of Schneider National Carriers. I'm not familiar enough with their operations to answer that. I simply guide people their way if they are looking for a decent way to enter the industry on economical and more honest terms that what other training companies offer.

    I would strongly discourage you from looking at Swift or Werner, simply because they both have horrible safety statistics, among the worst turnover rates in the the industry, and more complaints offered by newbies in regard to the way they were treated while in training and after going solo.

    Swift also now requires a two year commitment of service for free training. Most newbies will have almost a zero percent chance of honoring that commitment. They are known for their inability to retain drivers for long periods of time, unless they get in on a dedicated account, and newbies are not first in line for those positions. In addition to this, they are relentless in hounding those that quit during the commitment period for the cost of training, and for entering negative information into consumer reports, which has ruined more than one driver's credit and/or their prospect to seek further employment in the trucking industry.
     
  9. Aligator

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    I chose a local manufacturer for that very reason. All my trips are out and back, so I get home during the week and every weekend.
    When looking for a job it helps to turn over lots of rocks; the company you are looking for may not advertise......make those phone calls! After the first few you'll find that companies love to talk to honest newbies even if the company has nothing to offer.
     
  10. themlilboots

    themlilboots Heavy Load Member

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    "although I have my moments in which I wish I had never stepped into my first truck. At times I thought I was fed up with it, I tried to do other lines of work, and I couldn't do it. I'm not an office type of person, and I am not cut out for working on a factory job either. The boredom overwhelms me."

    Wow Turbo, I think that is the reason most of us keep getting called back into this industry.
     
  11. BUBBABONE

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    or keep climbing in the drivers seat.... :D
     
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