I'm pushing 60 (in a couple years) and still manage to cope with very little idle time. "Dues" has nothing to do with it.
I commiserate with those that have had frost bite, it sure does lead to a lifetime of sensitivity to temperatures in the extremities that were affected. Thankfully I never did get frostbite, although came close on McKinley. Some of my friends in the climbing world weren't so lucky, some lost digits (and were relegated to a lifetime of not being able to count properly)...![]()
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Anti Idle Advice
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by HappyHardCore, Oct 19, 2013.
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Everything companies do with expenses, the expenses are passed along to the customer.
Considering the value of the loads, its mere pennies to give the drivers proper living conditions and comfort for 10 hour sleep break so they can be well rested for that next 14 hour shift.
If the companies are complaining that idle time is too high, such as beyond 10 hour break, then start giving your company drivers more miles, instead of having them sit all weekend on a 300-600 mile load they picked up on Friday and told to sit on it until Monday. And for middle of the week, no excuse, give your drivers more miles to lower the idle time.
For the few nature lovers out there that can handle any weather condition without heat and ac and/or are company owners that refuse to idle, then congrats, but please don't make the rest of us suffer too.
I can almost understand the winter arguement, use sleeping bags, etc, but there is no excuse for summer. We're not exactly sleeping under a tree with nice breeze. We're in a tin can baking under the sun with very little ventilation, esp in some areas that might not feel safe to leave windows open with screens in them.
When all the states and all the companies enforce 0 tolerance for idle, and provide no options for relief, then it'll be a reason to finally retire. Until then, its just a struggle speaking up to deaf ears, and just idle it anyways. -
even if it was 10 degrees outside that sun can and will cook your truck. but only when there isnt a breeze.
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By the way, your comments about dealing with heat in a tin can is well taken. That's why when I get my own truck and become an O/O I'll be certain to have a very well insulated truck. Many trucks I've been in have been terrible when it comes to insulation against heat. The '12 Cascadia I'm currently driving is by far the best.
I think the push to lower idle times is only going to increase from governments and companies.
I think it would be a boon to the industry if we installed solar panels on the roofs of tractors to power AC and heat. Battery capacity should also be addressed. I find that almost all my idle time so far is used to recharge the dang batteries to keep my 12v cooler going, the 12v fan, and the Webasto heater in winter. It would be nice to not have to worry about battery power. -
True, but any heat built up in the day time when its degrees outside can easily be taken care of by just merely cracking the windows or vents.
In summer time day time not much you can do to get enough ventilation to rid the 130 degrees inside when its 100 degrees outside. -
I'd love anything to help, like solar panels. I love APUs. I've heard about batteries for heaters, but also heard the battery goes dead after 8 hours and then you have to drive for X hours to fully recharge them again, which can give the driver some bad days. If a solar panel could keep those batteries charged longer, and keep other stuff going like 12v cooler, 12v fan, then omg win win.
I think your right, its only going to get worse. Politicians pretending to be green to get votes making anti idle laws, and companies pushing for more profit even though they profit in the millions each year anyways, they just want more profit. I guess its matter of time until 0 tolerance vs acceptable alternatives like APU, Battery, Solar Panel, etc. Hopefully with enough discussing and bringing it to their attention, and improved technology we'll be able to come up with good solutions for driver comfort that doesn't require idling so it'll be win-win for both driver and company. -
my company say u can idle 35% a week and we have to average 6mpg a week
the way I found around that I would set my cruise control between 55-60mpg ride like that all day. if im heavy by the time I stop I would be at maybe 7.3 or so and when I was light I would be over 8.0mpg. I would idle my truck just enough to where it wouldn't kill. I would do this maybe 2-3 time a week. the other days I would run my truck at the governed speed 65mph. because I AINT GONNA BE HOT/FREEZE FOR NOBODY!!!!! I been in NJ & NY at those plaza's they have no idle signs up. still do it I never got a knock on door. they have signs up no overnight parking ignored that one 2. my company pay 300,200,100 to drivers with top MPG for month. they be out there in heat/ cold just trying to get bonus. I don't need money that bad. I was always over my % but I always got my MPG average. my DM never said anything to me because I was a good driver my grade in company was A+. 80% of my loads was hot loads. when I become a o/o in the not so distant future I will have a APU put on truck before I leave dealership. if I got to be away from home BY GOSH GOLLY!!!! im gonna be comfortable. -
For those that haven't seen it, and I'm sure they'll be in collections of limited edition car enthusiasts, there is the all electric Aptera...
http://editorial.autos.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=444375
... one feature that always fascinated me about this car was the composite shell that embedded solar panels in the roof that were dedicated to keeping the temperature controlled in the cabin, even when you parked the car in a sunny, hot day. You could always count on having a comfortable car to get into after a couple hours shopping at a mall.
Trucks have MUCH more surface area available for solar panels above the windshield and on the sides. With the decreasing costs of solar panels why not embed SP's in the body panels of the tractor in order to have a functional AC and/or charge batteries so we don't have to idle so much to stay comfortable? The green technology is there, so how much would this really cost to implement in a truck for a payback that could net $10K to $20K per year?
Think about that... truck stops could become much quieter, less polluting, and healthier. -
By the way, one good way to have a comfortable sleep in the winter...
... run at night when it's cold, then park with the wind shield facing west so you catch all that warmth coming into the cab... I gotta vent the sleeper berth to stay cool enough to sleep until the sun goes down... (yawn)...
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