Anti-rollover devices

Ad agree that auto trans and power steering make you a less attentive driver, but having a safety feature that you dont use (air bags, crumple zones, abs) shouldn't make you less attentive. It should just save u if u do use it. I dont drive my 2004 golf with crumple zones, airbags, auto trans etc. with any less attentiveness then my 88 jeep wrangler with none of those safty features.

 

Anything that reduces the hurt associated with screwing up takes away the incentive to not screw up. YOU may not drive differently, but that just tells me that you aren't like most. Increasing the cost of inattention will invariably lead to less inattention on the roads.

 

I have to agree I haven't driven a truck with the stuff on it, I have driven a mack with disk brakes only not the other supporting systems and did not like the disk brakes alone. I will say I could see adding to them may make them better than just the disk alone. I will also add that mechanics not willing to learn the new technology and want to convert it back only add to the problem.

That was really meant as a snicker sort of comment not to be taken seriously. You are right about another assumption I have been in three funeral processions with my truck I hope never again. The thing is to be serious hauling live animals not tied down when myself or the truck tries to guess there shift after a counter maneuver its not gonna be pretty I assure everyone of that. The only way to avoid it is avoid that counter maneuver all togather.

I didn't see that reply as an attack on my personal skills at all but more of a compliment.

 

I haul liquids,mostly in unbaffeld tanks.
Aldough it isn't at first sight similiar to bullhauling,we both haul loads that have movement.
And that movement can be "fun" at times.
In my case the effect off the surge can be compared to rearending another truck at 10mph.
There is a actual "bang" that you can hear.
And before any "supertrucker" says you can drive so you don't have that ....................i say BS.
You can drive to limit it as much as possible but not eliminate it.

As a example ,this afternoons load:
6364 gallon off Triethylene Glycol
in a open bore tank that is 8189gallon big,with inside the tank from front to back around 27feet.
59524lbs off load for a gross off 95460lbs
The liquid has more then 22% off free space to move around inside the tank.

If you do flatbed ,the best i compare it with is loading a coil suicide(eyes off the coil to the side) that is just shy off 60 000lbs and it being able to roll 20 feet to the front and back with it falling off.
And then somebody tell me you can drive that without a "bang".

You haul stuff like that,you want the best equipement money can buy.

Now can i drive it old style?
I can,i did it in the past but why take the risk?
Maybe old style is cheaper but i value my live more.

Having said the above,
old style driving skills are the best to learn
The safety features are (like others have also mentioned) a extra.
They don't replace basic driving skills.


@wore out:that's a mighty fine Pete you have.

ps diskbrakes without ABS or EBS,i agree they don't work good on a truck.
It's a package deal.

 

You mean brakes?

 

I wanted to make the liquid to live animals analogy but never having hauled it I couldn't be sure. I agree they would be very similar. I could see the liquid being a little harder to control cause after all it has no solid properties or a brain to say oh snuff. Lol. Thanks for the compliment on my ol girls I'm very proud of both of them. Keep your brakes cool

 

ABS stands for Anti-LOCK Braking Systems, they don't let the wheels lock up and KEEP you in control. We at B.R.A.K.E.S like to say that ABS stands for ABility to Steer. if you've never tried ABS on a vehicle, it's pretty amazing, it won't stop you any faster, but it keeps you in control.