Any company drivers legally getting over 3,000 since the new HOS change?

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  1. Victor_V

    Victor_V Road Train Member

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    double yellow, so I get this text exchange while outside:


    Dispatch: 'Do you want to run tomorrow?'
    Me: Sure.-Where-am-I-going?
    Dispatch: 'Don't know yet but I will let you know shortly'
    Dispatch: 'Going to have you leave outbound to Philly tomorrow. You will pick up your load at [xxxxx] Street in the morning. Use truck [xxx] and your directions will be in your mail box.
    Me: Cool. Thx!


    I will go over this truck carefully, including slide underneath with a creeper and adjust the brakes (not steering--if there's a problem there I want a mechanic to do that). I've taken several weeks off. This load will either come right back to Indy or make a triangle back. Probably 1300 miles, more if a triangle and it pays well, on percentage. I'm not the least concerned with time management, will just run it. Fuel at the yard here, check all fluids. All our loads are urgent.

    The sander comes back into the house. My washer and dryer aren't hooked up so I'll shower and head to town and the laundromat. My running gear goes back in the Merc Sable wagon. I may run up tonight in case the last driver left the truck dirty or stinky. They're not supposed to but it happens. I'll clean it.

    [I'll have some time to play your interesting game at the laundromat.] Didn't. Arrived yard in Indy 1:15 am. You're on the back burner, double yellow. Sorry. But the truck is clean and odor-free. Yay! I know where I'm going now, just not when it's ready. It's z-z-z-z-z time. Night!
     
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  3. Ghost Ryder

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    When I started working, the NDO told me to take a 100% load of APC's to the MPA. From the MPA I took 4 trips of BMC's to the AMC. From the AMC it was to PSI where I took 2 trips of APC's to the HASP.
     
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    Yes way back in the internet days of elite speak. Especially during online FPS games, first it was "owned" if you beat someone. Then it turned into "ownt". Lastly it evolved into "pwnt".
     
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    n00bz must post pr0n or GTFO.
     
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  6. Ghost Ryder

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    RTFM

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  7. snowwy

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    i'd like to know why some of you think that wages will eventually go higher.

    like lilbit said. they are way lower today then last century when i started.
     
  8. Victor_V

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    double yellow--my load was not ready @ 8:45. Shipper said 1-1/2 to 2 hrs. Mann's Grill for Alaska fish san.


    I'm much more conventional than you and intrigued at how you ran this. (I'm assuming this is an actual run.)

    From Savage, Mn 2 hr live load ready @ 3 pm.
    Day 1 out - 3 pm to 10 pm....... 7 hrs driving
    Day 2 out - 8 am to 7 pm......... 10 hrs driving
    Day 3 out - 8 am to 7 pm......... 10 hrs driving

    1) Earliest drop unless Mason City accepts early del or Savage loads earlier = 7 pm Day 3 (all Central)
    2) Available again = 8 am Day 4 (I know a lot of 'seasoned' drivers like to roll out early am. I like 8 am.)
    3) Available from 70 = 35.25

    From Walcott IA 0800
    205 mi to Mason City dock 4.25 (if cannot unload earlier, will ask to drop trlr and bobtail to TS for any necessaries on off-duty driving--narrative doesn't indicate any needs. Will not fuel until after unloaded and probably not here.)
    116 mi to Savage MN 2.25 live load @ 1300 (1 pm) if cannot do earlier. Loaded by 1500 (3 pm).
    Savage MN to Laredo TX - 27 hrs
    DVIRs 3 days .75 Savage MN to Laredo
    Fuel probably twice, at least once between Des Moines and Topeka, second as needed. .50
    I extended your 90 min (1-1/2 hr unload and load time to 2 hrs each)

    Gotta scoot. Load should be ready soon if not already. Load today is similar miles to your homework assignment, 638 to Philly. Asked dispatch when due in Philly. "Tomorrow morning," he said. 3-ring loose-leaf paper logs. 71 mph truck. Just had gear frame replaced and appears to have been driven almost not at all while I've been gone. Waxed and polished outside (we have a wash rack and a gal who washes, details). This 1-1/2 hr delay counts against my maximum 2-hours for loading/unloading after which is paid $18/hr for all hours. Same with breakdowns, except paid all breakdown hrs @ $18. A nice load. Dry van, loaded light. I had expected a smooth-bore tanker. Not.
     
  10. double yellow

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    Estimate:

    1650/62mph = 26.25 hours driving
    5 min pre & post trip for 3 days: .5 hours
    fuel: included in post trip
    3 min each checking in at receiver, shipper, & drop yard: 9 min
    3 min drop trailer (in addition to 5min post trip already counted)
    3 min cat scale

    total: 27 hours

    How you run walcott to mason city to savage doesn't really matter as long as you reach savage with 8 hours drive time & 10 on your 14.

    savage to laredo: 1350 miles (if you bypass i35/ok city and go through okmulgee)
    1350/62mpg = 21.75 hours -- 2 full "days"

    You're starting that leg with less than a full day, the traditional approach might be "22 hours driving + 2 10-hr breaks + 2 30-min breaks + 3 sets of ptis (fueling during a pti)" for a transit time of 43.75 hrs + whatever cushion with which you might pad your eta's. That gives you your arrival time, and for available hours you would have 11 minus the drive time from mason city to savage for the day and 43 on your 70.

    But if you arrive at the shipper at least 1/2 hour early (or stay 1/2 hour after loading), then stop for 8 hours after driving at least 3, you can use the 8/2 split. Doing so will save 2 hours from the 20 hours of dot 10's and eliminate the 30-minute breaks entirely -- transit time: 41 hours, boarding 2 hours after you deliver with 11 minus whatever your first shift hours were for drive time and 43 on the 70.

    so if you left the shipper at 1430 on 8/11 and drove straight through you could deliver at 0730 on 8/14

    I just finished that very run, arriving at 0800 (I left the cat scale at 1500) -- averaging 62.8mph, but taking three extra pee breaks. Stopped for 8 & fuel in Des Moine, stopped for 2 in Okmulgee, stopped for 8 in Dallas, then delivered in Laredo and after 2 hours regained 4.5 hours to board (at that point I was #30 on board. If I boarded at 7pm I would have been behind another 23 trucks before getting a load out). I used 27.25 hours total -- 15 min more than expected due to a random drug test...



    edit: you could decide to stay another 8 hours at the shipper to start a fresh day, then you'd only stop for another 10 & two 30min breaks. You'd arrive just an hour later than the 8/2 split method (due to the two extra 30min breaks), but you would arrive with only 15min drive time remaining so you wouldn't be able to board until completing another 10...
     
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