Any company drivers legally getting over 3,000 since the new HOS change?

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  1. yessir

    yessir Medium Load Member

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    My truck wouldn't even start if i tell him we are going to california it's just too much for drivers plus i don't even know how to go there lol
     
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  3. Victor_V

    Victor_V Road Train Member

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    I think we're getting a little off OP's subject (and I'm partly at fault), company drivers still getting 3,000 miles/week under new rules. The OP, NewNashGuy said:

    New HOS visor card: http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/documents/hos/HOS-Regulations-7-1-2013.pdf

    J J Keller HOS Q & A: http://www.jjkeller.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/content____bi-hoursofservice-newrule-FAQs
     
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  4. Victor_V

    Victor_V Road Train Member

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    We haven't heard back from joseph1135 who claimed:

    The above seems highly unlikely in one week and not just to me. According to my iPad Google Maps, he'd have to average 64.8 mph in a truck buttoned at 61/63 (cruise off/on), 4300 plus miles in 67 passenger-car-driving-hours and passenger car speeds. Not to mention loading/unloading and fueling (which has to be done on-duty)...

    He has elogs so it would be nice to know his miles/driving hours/on-duty hours off his QualComm for those days. Drives for Gordon.
     
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  5. Victor_V

    Victor_V Road Train Member

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    snowwy said:

     
  6. Victor_V

    Victor_V Road Train Member

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    From JJ Keller Q & A:

    [h=3]How does the 168-hour-rule work?[/h]
    The purpose of the 168-hour rule (according to the DOT) is to make sure that drivers cannot put in 70 hours of work, immediately take a restart, and then immediately go back to driving, week after week. This results in drivers being able to average about 82 hours per week instead of a maximum of 70.
    Under this new restriction, drivers will not be able to start another “restart” break until 168 consecutive hours — exactly 7 days — have passed since the start of their last “restart” break. For example, a driver who begins a restart break at 8:00 p.m. on a Tuesday will not be able to start another restart break until 8:00 p.m. or later on the following Tuesday, even if the driver runs out of hours long before then.
     
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  7. Ghost Ryder

    Ghost Ryder Road Train Member

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    I'm lucky if I get 500 miles a week.
     
  8. Victor_V

    Victor_V Road Train Member

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    Also from JJ Keller Q & A:

    Under the new rules, is the 34-hour restart provision still optional?

    Yes. Even after compliance with the new rule is required in July 2013, the restart provision will still be optional, like it is today. For example, a driver who works 8 hours per day, 7 days per week, would never need to use the restart provision because he/she would never reach the 60- or 70-hour limit. Drivers may continue to keep a running total or “recap” of their hours over the past 7 or 8 days and “do the math” each day to determine when they may need time off before driving again. In some cases, getting a restart will be the quickest way to get back on the road.
     
  9. Victor_V

    Victor_V Road Train Member

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    More from JJ Keller:

    How does the 1 a.m. – 5 a.m. provision work?


    This new restriction will force drivers to get two, back-to-back, nighttime periods of rest as part of their 34-hour restart break, even if they normally work at night. Under this new rule, for a rest break to count as a “restart,” it must include the 28 consecutive hours from 1 a.m. on the first day until 5 a.m. on the following day, plus enough additional time on either end (at least 6 hours) to total at least 34 hours.

    For example, a driver can get a restart by going off duty from 7:00 p.m. on Friday until 5:00 a.m. on Sunday. The break includes the hours from 1-5 a.m. on Saturday morning and again on Sunday morning and is at least 34 hours long.

    Drivers will only be able to take exactly 34 hours off to get their restart if they begin their break between 7 p.m. and 1 a.m. If they start earlier than 7 p.m. or after 1 a.m., they'll need more than 34 hours off.

    Does the 34-hour restart break have to be taken at the driver’s home?

    No. The break can be taken in any location but it must be logged based on the time standard in effect at the driver’s home terminal.
     
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  10. curiousalexa

    curiousalexa Bobtail Member

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    Thank you. I couldn't figure out how taking two breaks in a week could be considered a bad thing!
     
  11. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

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    Umm Yup--LOL--right around 42 same as b4
     
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