Any O/O's know how to legally use rig for personal use (pulling camper)?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by likeitsmylast, May 17, 2015.

  1. likeitsmylast

    likeitsmylast Bobtail Member

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    The girlfriend and I are ready to slow down and run part-time. We just recently finished paying off a 2015 Cascadia in 9 months after runninv hard and are tired. Lol. The small company we are leased to has mentioned that we could do a 6 months on / 6 months off type of deal.

    My question is related to using the rig as a part-time commercial vehicle and part-time personal camper hauler. We're okay with keeping insurance and plates up to date. But it's hard to find info about legally pulling a travel trailer (fifth wheel). Not even sure where to start. I was just going to buy an F450 and be done with it. But figured it was worth looking into using the Cascadia.

    Any good references online? Advice? Sorry if this has been asked before...
     
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  3. 77fib77

    77fib77 Road Train Member

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    Ask ooida(sp)?? Congrats on paying off your truck so quickly, I'm impressed. Did you ask your insurance agent or is all the insurance with who you are leased on to?
     
  4. truckon

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    Just make sure you have the registration to the camper in your name.

    Then run a log book (off duty line each day) pull through scales if they are open, if stopped or pulled around back just show your logs and explain that your off duty going camping.
     
  5. Studebaker Hawk

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    I do exactly as you would like to. I pull my 35' Work and Play behind the tractor you see in the avatar. I live in it full time and move it when I get tired of looking at the same scenery out the window.
    I am leased to a power only company, Trailer Transit. They give me permission and don't charge me anything. As far as the DOT is concerned it is just like any other customer trailer. My logs are the same as usual, my plates are the same apportioned plates, the trailer is plated in my name.
    Liabilty Insurance is the same as if I were hauling a customer trailer.
    Just notify your company when you are going to be on the move, since you might have been off duty for a while, do 7 days worth of logs and log as usual, pti, driving time, on duty fueling, sleeper whatever. Go into the scales, they have never looked twice at me.
    In short act just like you had one of your companies trailer behind. The DOT doesn't care what is behind you, as long as it is legal.
    Where folks get into trouble is they try to plate the big truck as an RV and pull a horse or race car trailer with a race team or farm on the side. They don't have logs, they don't have a physical card.
    But they are a commercial enterprise (make money, even if it just prize money) and have to have everything just like any trucking company, CDL, physical card, logs, apportioned plates etc.
    PM if you want more info.
     
  6. GYPSY65

    GYPSY65 Road Train Member

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    If you are doing 6 on 6 off I would think you can get your insurance rates changed from commerce to personal. Not certain, but seasonal companies do it, you might even be able to cover up your lettering and have it tagged as RV for that time if it's possible and not a big hassle???
     
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  7. truckon

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    So you haven't been inspected while running that way? What your doing is illegal. Your falsify your logs by saying your on duty working, while your actually not.

    Those fines to you and your company will hurt when you get caught.
     
  8. Studebaker Hawk

    Studebaker Hawk Road Train Member

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    Truckon, I might not have explained it well enough. When I am moving my own trailer it is under their DOT #. It is just like I am hauling any customers trailer, the customer in question just happens to be me. I am not on vacation (off duty)while driving, and neither would the OP if he elects to do it this way.
    We haul all sorts of trailers, bumper pull, electric brakes, pintle hook, 5th wheel, gooseneck, and regular semi trailers. That is why the weigh stations don't pay much attention. And I would be happy to show all paperwork, according to our safety and licensing depts this is the proper way to do it.
     
  9. truckon

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    If its his authority, and He's not making any money by moving his recreational vehicle (while he is on vacation) then he has to log as "off duty" it would be lying (falsifying logs) to say that he is working when hes not.
     
  10. Cetane+

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    So, if you are truly going to be "off" for 6 months, that means no plates or insurance with the company that has the operating authority. If you are truly off then you dont need anything a tractor trailer needs. The insurance would be in your name, along with the personal registration. It is EXACTLY the same as ANY of the large RVs you see on the road every day. Figure out the definition of a CMV, then that answers all of the questions. Now, you already have the class A with valid physical so that will never become a problem for you. Remove or cover all of the lettering and or signs that were from your company. But really, go find the FMCSA's definition of a CMV, that is the answer. Good luck on your well earned time off.
     
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