Any Old FL COE/Cummins Experts?

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by Star4900, Jun 12, 2016.

  1. Star4900

    Star4900 Medium Load Member

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    Found an old 1975? Canadian built White Freightliner WFT7264T and have a few questions.

    The engine is partially dismantled and covered in rags. The build plate says NTC450, but from any research I've done so far, doesn't seem like that engine rating was even around when this truck was built?

    But from the people I talked to that remember this truck and judging by the new Cummins rebuild kit in the box that was with it....it all points to a KT450. Someone on another forum also told me the serial number indicates a KT1150.
    It also has a compression release in the cab. 019.JPG 020.JPG 021.JPG 004 (2).JPG 019.JPG 020.JPG 021.JPG 004 (2).JPG

    Any idea why the build plate would say NTC450? And what does it mean where it says:
    Engine Assembly........Deviated
    Air Intake Inst......Deviated

    The vehicle ID# is GA213HVO 96133

    Can anyone tell me anything about this truck?
     
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  3. Star4900

    Star4900 Medium Load Member

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    004.JPG 010.JPG 011.JPG More pis. Looks like it was quite the truck back in it's day.
     
  4. BoxCarKidd

    BoxCarKidd Road Train Member

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    K series has 6 heads and valve covers. N has three heads and valve covers. A lot can happen in forty years and look original.
     
  5. BoxCarKidd

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    Kind of guessing the NTC450 was a twin turbo, special order. The intake and exhaust had to be custom built because it was not a standard assembly line truck.
     
  6. BigPerm

    BigPerm Medium Load Member

    I'm kinda agreeing w/boxcar....but most 450's would'very been a NTTC450 w/twin turbo. I've only seen & driven one...& it was a FL.
     
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  8. justa_driver

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    I believe its going to be an NTC 450? Unless "deviated" means modified? The 74 Pete I drove had an NTC 400 in it, which just meant it was a 400 hp cummins. I drove another pete (72 I think?) that had an NTC 350 in it. Maybe the K number is a line number or sequence number or something? Maybe a nomenclature number kinda like the 238 detroit was called a 6-71 detroit ( 6 cyl) and the 318 detroit was called an 8-71 detroit (8 cyl)? 71 being the actual model number of the engine. The K number is probably the model number of the engine?
     
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  9. FinkPloyd

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    Only Twin turbo Cummins I can think of in that generation was the ntc 475, however I'm almost positive its a formula 450 should have the formula sticker somewhere on the motor..

    However don't hold me to that as my parents were just out of Diapers when this truck was hauling, and I can only go off of old shop manuals that I have and what I hear from the Old Timers I talk to.

    if you really want honest answers from people who live and breathe the old Trucks.. post this up over on the American Truck Historical Society's Forum.

    Love that Canadian Spread axle though.
     
  10. SmokinCAT

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    That serial on the plate is for a K series, and a very early one at that.

    There were no NT engines rated at more then 420hp at that time, the 475 didn't come out until the BC2 series.

    That needs to be restored as is.
     
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  11. SmokinCAT

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    I don't believe that truck will even run the 55mph speed limit with 4.63 rears and a non overdrive 15 speed.
     
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