Any one else get a bill for escrow account money for Oregon permit?

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  1. stayinback

    stayinback Road Train Member

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    Heres some somewhat sobering news........Ar and Ks Did away with that stupid equipment value tax......You DO NOT need to Pay New Jersey a foreign corp tax if you do not do conduct business Intrastate there

    As For intrastate authorities? Theres just a few States left that require it, (I think texas and a couple others).. So, Improvement has been made

    UCR is here to stay (That was the Reason to Knock off Single state registrations) And the IFTA surcharge taxes arent going anywhere either..But are still reasonable fees
     
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  3. wonderdog24

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    What they do is take a certain amount on top of the permit cost till you have the escrow paid off...... You can also set-up your own account with them n provide your own surety bond.... That is what I did till I said F'em I'm not going there anymore.....
     
  4. Sly Fox

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    Only went to OR once last year, paid in advance. Was told you can't pay at the POE anymore. No escrow needed, just gave me the rate and paid it.

    Thought I was told if there were more than a certain number of trips in a 12mo period, you have to fund an account.
     
  5. G/MAN

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    I refuse to go to those stats that make it so expensive in which to operate. If you look at the actual cost per mile of doing business in Oregon, it just isn't worth it.I took California and the other communist states on the left coast off my cab card this year. I am also sick and tired of New York and the other communist states on the east coast. So, I no longer cross the Hudson. With the high tolls with semingly endless increases and now the NY HUT coming back, it is no longer worth the hassle. Pennsylvania increased their fuel taxes considerably. Kansas got rid of their illegal property tax, but added money to their portion of the IRP. I can easily go around Kansas. I believe that if you don't like the taxes or how some of these states do business, just stay out of those states. Pennsylvania recently went up on their fuel taxes. I won't be buying fuel in Pennsylvania. Stop complaining about these states and steer clear. Stop spending money with them. I have not taken the Pennsylvania toll road in many years. It is cheaper to go around it. Obama wants to make it easier for states to place tolls on existing roads that we have already paid for with our taxes. I cannot control the taxes that these states place on this industry. I can control where I go and how I get there. If more truckers changed thir behavrior then stats would either change or collect less revenue. Unless you are a company driver you can control where you go and whre you decide to operate. It is your decision as to where you fuel. Start taking control over your business and stop allowing these states to charge what they wish. If you don't want to give Oregon a big escrow then don't go there. If you don't like the way Kansas does business, then don't go there. Tired of the never ending increases on tolls in the northeast, then stay out of there.
     
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  6. KANSAS TRANSIT

    KANSAS TRANSIT Road Train Member

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    Although I agree with your premise, it creates a problem for us and I will assume many other carriers. We have several "house" accounts that we service that ship to every state, go ahead and tell your customer that I will go here, but not to this state or that state.

    See how long you hold onto that account. It is strictly a business decision, and although I agree that because of tolls/taxes/permits it does cost more to operate in those states, the alternative would be to lose those accounts, easier (and cheaper) to ##### about it on here.
     
  7. stayinback

    stayinback Road Train Member

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    G/MAN...

    I think you are making a MOUNTAIN out a molehill.......


    The only state I would concerened with is Oregon.......

    I run Ny,Pa and the eastern states, Its not that bad, Charge accordingly when you go there





     
  8. KANSAS TRANSIT

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    Here's my take on it, and consequently what rubs me the wrong way is this, EVERY other state you go to that has ANYTHING that costs extra, whether it is tolls/taxes or permit, you either pay for at that time, (tolls or some permits) OR you pay for it well AFTER the fact, either as a quarterly tax payment, IFTA, or even a yearly payment as the Ad Valorem was/is.

    There is nothing in any state that I have ever run that requires this kind of up front payment, LONG BEFORE you would ever step foot in their state, IOW any other expense that you have in any other state you can itemize for that trip, or that year, just how in the heck do you account for a LOSS of 4,000 dollars out of cash flow?

    I am sorry, but I can only look at this a highway robbery in the truest sense of the word.

    If the state of Oregon wants to go out on there own and not be a part of IFTA, (which I think is BS to start with) then initiate a program like NM on a quarterly or even a monthly pay basis, but to have to cover a year or more cost, UP FRONT is ridiculous. I am telling you, this action does set a precedent for other things of this nature, slippery slope is a understatement.

    JMHO,

    Stan
     
  9. wichris

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    They have always had a deposit for their road tax. After a few years of on time payments they gave it back.
     
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  10. stayinback

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    And you Agree with that?

    Im not sure im going to Give someone $2500-$4,000 of my money so they can collect interest on that for a few years Multiply that by the thousands of carriers doing it..

    Are they returning this Money with Dividends accrued? I Bet Not,
     
  11. KANSAS TRANSIT

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    Sorry Chris, but I can't agree, we have always, at least 15 years that I can remember called them and ordered a permit for that day or the next couple of days, I have never had to give them an up front deposit, I do understand that I can choose to just pay triple for the permit until I get the 4 grand in escrow.

    I just don't think it's right that they should be allowed to "sit" on MY MONEY. For all of these years my permits have been paid in full, on time, NEVER a charge back, is that not a GOOD TRACK RECORD?

    Stan
     
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