Any procedure(s) for defeating forced talkback on Road Devil mics?

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  1. GGALLIN1776

    GGALLIN1776 Bobtail Member

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    Is it possible to kill the forced talk back feature on the Road Devil RD104E power mics?

    None of the radios which I own have a t.b. feature but this mic forces it no matter the power level & with it, horrible squeal if the power is beyond 1-2.
    Hopefully there's a potentiometer inside to dial it all the way back, this is driving me nuts.

    Trying to use the p.a. function with this is an exercise in futility. When doing so it must have cooked something on my garbage unidens (880 & 980) as turning on the p.a. now transmits the whatever is being received over the radio.

    I triple checked the jacks & the p.a. is in the correct outlet. To stop this, the squelch has to be on 100% & no external speaker can be plugged in as it will pick up the forced t.b. over that, making feedback like nails on a chalkboard. This even occurs on older Cobras & *GASP* Galaxy radios as well.

    Any ideas on a remedy?

    I've tried another cheapo power mic (possibly Workman, just has a silver "power mic" emblem. No other info present) but get a similar issue.
    Never had this problem with my Turner +3 but that's long gone & any currently on the market have been "clipped" at the connector yet still command an insane premium....which no one is paying but the same listings remain.

    I need a power mic as standard/noise cancelling require shouting on my behalf to be heard on the airways.

    Not exactly a fan of doing that, especially when there's no background noise present necessitating it.
    Really kills your throat if you plan on talking for any period beyond a couple seconds.
     
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  3. Night Stalker10

    Night Stalker10 Road Train Member

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    Is this a brand new Mike? I can't find anything on specs for this mic that says it supports talk back. As far as I know, it's the same ceramic mic as the Astatic D104-M6. With the road devil having red plastic enclosure instead of black. The only trim pot in these microphones is there to adjust the gain of the eletret mic element only. No talk back.

    I own a D104-M6b, bought back in 2011, it's basically brand new, I never used it in the truck I drove. I didn't really care for the bulky square design for some reason. Later I bought an Ranger SRA 198, modified the mic amp in the cobra 25 I was using. It sounded great.
    IMG_20230427_120314642_BURST000_COVER.jpg IMG_20230427_120511742_BURST000_COVER.jpg
    The bottom picture is the internal circuit of the Astatic D104 mikes that I created on a perf board. I always thought these mics sounded like they had a little too much base. I think it's due to the 3300uh choke they use. Of course these microphones are famous for a scratchy or noisy PTT switch. I ordered a couple of switches that are suppose to be better quality wise. I've never used them since I haven't used the mic enough to develop this noisy problem. Maybe someday.... Ha.
     
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  4. GGALLIN1776

    GGALLIN1776 Bobtail Member

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    It's the red one, they don't advertise it as forced talkback but for some reason it does it.

    My dx55hp came with one of those ranger mics, has a really nice feel to it with the extra weight....sad thing is when I had it apart the wiring & resistor on the ptt switch came loose.

    Things went wrong at that point I learned really quick not to use inherited soldering irons of which you don't know the operational status.

    One went up in smoke immediately upon plugging it in, the other had a sticky trigger with an oddly excessive DC hum, the plastic body melted in my hand while getting up to temp, found out about the trigger as I let off yet it kept humming away. Third just wasn't "precision" & the tin dripped into the switch.
     
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