Any T680 Owners? Would love some feedback.

Discussion in 'Kenworth Forum' started by Zen Trucker, Feb 24, 2013.

  1. .honeybadger.

    .honeybadger. Road Train Member

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    I can get some measurement and more specifics on the fifth wheel when I get to the yard tomorrow and am bobtail. I know when I scaled the last load I had 5/8ths of a tank of fuel. And Ive got a Paccar MX under the hood, same engine as was in my 700.
     
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  3. TULY007

    TULY007 Light Load Member

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    Now provided that the MX is smaller,lighter because of that specialty????iron block the ISX engines with your set up are more steer heavy....It'll be very helpfull to have the Wheel base number and the 5th position....i did realize that is non sliding......if u can do and post a picture from the side of the tandems will be appreciated......

    Right now i have 24'' slide slide base/holland 5th ....but i may go back to the initial ideea and buy a 36''max offered slide....
    THE 24'' slide i have it set up as((the center of the 5th/trailer pin hole)) to -2'' bacwards off the center space between tandem tires...
     
  4. Oram

    Oram Medium Load Member

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    If your fifth wheel centered on the middle of your tandem, you do not need that long slider. The Volvo 770 is a nose heavy too, but I have never had to slide more than four nuts. But how can you be legal with a fixed 5-th wheel? In most states you are registered for only 80,000lbs, 12,000-34,000-34,000. Is not it?
     
  5. Zen Trucker

    Zen Trucker Road Train Member

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    No. It is a common misconception. Tandems can't be over 34K but your steers are governed by tire or axle rating. I'm often over 12K on my steers .
     
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  6. TULY007

    TULY007 Light Load Member

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    ZEN ceck the common RAND McNALLY ROAD ATLAS,page 16...weights limit by state
    ARKANSAS,LOUISIANA,MISSISSIPPI,VERMONT...HAVE 12000 STEER MAX ...nothing about axle/tire weight spec
    NEVADA 12500 LBS MAX............ONLY...MAINE,MISSOURI,UTAH have tire spec ratings max......ALL others have more than 13000 lbs front or more none is about axle spec max
    IF the info is not correct i can't say,but if does is, in those states we're at DOT mercy if over....Owned for 9 years the 770 volvo 12400lbs bobtail steer, never any problems but i always tried to slide back 5th when over 12500lbs steer

    I do a friend that had a DOT officer that make him stay on the scale with red light,cecked his steer front tires ratio,pulled him over and out of service till he called a local tire shop that had a H rated tires((16 plyers)) and over $$$$ to be able to go....same volvo 770

    170 ticket in missouri that have 20000 lbs steer or max rating of tire/axle to match weight...
     
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  7. silenteagle

    silenteagle Road Train Member

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    I have seen plenty of trucks with the ISX engine on the hook or in the shop (3 days avg) for all of the DPF/DEF/SCR/EGR issues and more. My company (Prime) has done away with the ISX on new trucks, opting for the PACCAR MX 13 engine instead. I am glad I drive the DD15, as the only fault so far (175000miles) was a clogged Doser. Into FL at 0730, done by 1030.
     
  8. TULY007

    TULY007 Light Load Member

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  9. silenteagle

    silenteagle Road Train Member

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    I am sorry that you misinterpreted my comment as "I want to start a peeing contest about FL hating" or "ISX hating"..... In a fleet of 6000 trucks with over 2000 Pete's with ISX engines, a 37% breakdown rating for the ISX caused the company to move away from them. Main reason: Peterbilt refuses about 90% of warranty work on the SCR systems and DPF issues. The company does have 3500 FL cascadias with a 19% breakdown rating for the DD15.
     
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  10. Zen Trucker

    Zen Trucker Road Train Member

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    TULY, I was posting from my phone before so did not explain myself as well as I should and of course, you are right with the chart in the Atlas. The point I was trying to make was that many think 12K on the steers is the law nation wide instead of many cases simply being 80-34-34=12.
     
  11. TULY007

    TULY007 Light Load Member

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    I'm not trying to defend or offend none of the engine/chasis MFGs...i wish that they were all making the trucks/engines at least as bad as my 2000 volvo with 12.7 detroit ,over 1.5 mil miles on it,w/o overhaul work, not even injectors change, or bottom work,or bull gear change....I always said that i'll buy another volvo if it had detroit engine/DD15 now on it, that happy i am with it, trouble free my truck was till now,still go and bring us back((2 years ago went to Fairbanks,ak and brought us back)):biggrin_255:....not a chance for it.. JUST DO NOT LIKE THE CASCADIA'S INTERIOR DESIGN,DASH,SEATS, WINDSHIELD SPLIT look, door glass split, fuel wise may be good but i'm buying just one so i want it for me...

    Now details about such a big company decision,$$ wise, big discounts from MFGs to push their own in house product to market buy 100 and you'll have 10 free and so on....don't think we the people'll never know...

    Percentage wise ISX beeing universal good for all MFG'S engine i think are more on the road cause anybody are selling them so let's say out off ......200 000 isx's between all MFG's have 37% break down equals....126000 are good
    same but just 1/4 off all trucks out are DD15.......50000 -19% equals....40500 are good.......we still going to hear more people reporting some kind of trouble with ISX's engine and dpf system mostly because they are way more out that any other single particular engine name.....

    Won't say that my estimates are 100% right but....i think that no MFG'S it's gonna pull ISX out off their line up offer including that, there is a high $$$$$ over charge not to go with inhouse engine cause they'll lose i'd say 30-40% of the sales...

    Ceck w. truckpaper.com ...most for sale trucks are :: FL with dd15, S60 14 litters, and 8 out off 10 volvo's are d12,d13,d16.......very few isx....
     
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