Any tips for 90 degree back in?????

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Calregon, Apr 21, 2014.

  1. Calregon

    Calregon Light Load Member

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    Having issues with my 90 and blind offset back ins. Any advice? Like where and what should be in what mirror?
     
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  3. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    Enough clearance and the proper angle is nice.
    So, Get Out And Look - as often as needed.
    Don't just rely on mirrors.
     
  4. Calregon

    Calregon Light Load Member

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    Oh, let me clarify, Im a student there are only cones and chalk lines. But I just cant get it right.
     
  5. lakerized805

    lakerized805 Light Load Member

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    That's true. I just did these exercises in my CDL school the other day.
     
  6. Lady K

    Lady K Road Train Member

    Knowing your pivot points... The tandems and the drives... Try pushing a shopping cart backward, same idea. Tandems are stationary and you have to push the front part around to 'drive' the cart. Well it works in my head anyway :)

    You can also get a model truck and watch the movements of tractor and trailer from above as you move it around... That might help you get 'the big picture'.
     
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  7. Gunner75

    Gunner75 Road Train Member

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    Ive been watching youtube videos on how to back properly and stopped at some truck stops and watched some drivers do it there. Plus watching my dad do it over the years I have the concept, but practice is what is gonna be needed.
     
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  8. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    As far as the test goes just the trailer has to be right. It doesn't matter how the truck ends up. So when you start the back it should be about a 30* angle attack. Then when your tires are about 3' away from the cone line jack knife her in there and you should be close. Find you a little rock to cheat with, Place it where the left front side of the trailer should be. Then you can look at it from the drivers side to figure where to stop pushing the front around.

    When ever you back try not to over compensate or you look like a snake wiggling around. It takes about half the angle to get the tractor back under the trailer. So when you first start that 30* angle the trailer about 15* your steer tires should be turned the other way. Then it's nothing but straight back until your tires are about 3' away from the cone line and then jack knife her in there and look for your rock.

    Another thing you might visualize is the trailer is already in where it suppose to be. How would everything happen pulling the trailer out? Backing in should be just the opposite with your actions.
     
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  9. Cranky Yankee

    Cranky Yankee Cranky old ######

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    the biggest mistake students make is watching the end of the trailer
    the pivot point for a turn is the tandems
    if you are just practicing in a parking lot having the tandems all the way back
    helps you match up what your eyes think they are seeing in reverse
    but tandems to the back end take more room to maneuver
    while tandems to the forward the back end of the trailer swings past the pivot point
     
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  10. Moving Forward

    Moving Forward Heavy Load Member

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    Plus spend lots-of-TIME out on the practice range.
    TIME = Things I Must Earn

    :biggrin_25525:
     
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  11. n3ss

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    Try it with a spread axle a few times. yuck.
     
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