Anyone had a glider totaled/stolen-Did they pay what it was worth

You assume the government needs a logcial reason to do anything. See more historical accounts of government doing dumb things then i can recount here. And if only say 1 in 25 or even 1 in 100 trucks are old iron then it will be easier for them to just get rid of them. Afterall who would care?

Besides people said the same about cali too that they would never do that....then they did. Maybe your right and they wont go after those older rigs. But.....people also said the same about equally stupid regs before like ELD or the new speed mandates going into effect soon. Regardless the days of old iron are numbered one way or another. Either through over regulation or by your own post just the fact the people that can maintain and run these rigs are retireing out/dieing off and a lot of that knowledge is going to be lost.

Id be quite suprised if you saw any on the road in a decade just due to natural attrition and skyrocketing fuel costs if absolutely nothing else.

 

So our situation is a bit different. I have an 89 378 that is our lowboy tractor, an 89 379 that we pull a flatbed with primarily hauling materials to our jobs or a sidedump, and a 2000 W900B dump truck. We only put between 40 and 60 thousand miles a year on them combined. I don't dispute that technology pays for itself.......if it didn't not nearly as many would buy new. In our situation though there is no way that I could pay $270k for a decent heavy haul tractor and come out on it, unless I really needed the tax break, and I would rather purchase new heavy equipment than a truck.

I will be interested to see what becomes of folks like me with speed limiters, as 2 out of three of our trucks are mechanical injection. I also anticipate (hope) that there is a grandfather clause for old equipment that is used sparingly. Many farmers in our area would have a hell of a time if they had to replace older trucks that are used only during harvest for a month or so.

 

Then those new farm trucks sit in a barn and when its go time, its discovered mice have eaten up $5k worth of wiring.

 

It depends on what you call old I run a 04 379 and do a lot of the regular maintenance myself but bring it in for anything that calls for heavy.lifting, mainly because I do everything from my driveway and until about two weeks ago it was covered in snow and ice. You can. Beat that dead horse until you are blue in the face about you will save money with a new truck, and despite me regearing mine to 2.74 and going to an 18spd from a 15 I am still lucky to see 5.5-6.5 mpg I will not get rid of my old iron, for two reasons, #1 is I enjoy driving it and I enjoy the truck. I actually wish it was a b model instead of the c15 and the electronics. The 2nd reason is I have never had to wait for parts until recently I have also never had to have the truck on a hook to get it home, and my opinion that is worth it's wait in gold, you guys can push that new junk as much as you want but there is a larger contingent of us that will not comply and don't really care About all the reasons you drive new trucks. I got asked at a fuel island on Thursday why I still drive that old "crap" and I laughed and said according to my numbers this last fill was 7.41 mpg what did you average, now I will say that was all flatbed and sheet steel both ways but it blew him away that those were my numbers. Loaded both ways and open deck I can say that is not bad. It was also not having much fun to reach those numbers but neither is driving a all plastic POS. So you guys can sit there and run your numbers all you want. I am a numbers guy by the way, but one shoe doesn't fit all, and
the day they tell me I can't run my truck anymore is the day I get out of the industry and work at the hardware store part time and enjoy myself

 

You may be right. I don't know much for certain, but a decade from now if I'm still runnin, it'll be this same 98

 

Got a level 2 with my glider pulling my flatbed couple weeks ago in Kentucky. Looked at all my paperwork and never ask for my logs the first time. My truck is a 95 with a 1986 model engine. Found a tag on one of the Rockwell diffs dated 1993, not sure the year of the trans, other than it’s a 15613.

He was looking hard at suspension and brakes. Course my flat probably don’t have 12,000 miles since I put drums, shoes, cams, cam bushings, and slack adjusters all on it….

 

not speaking politics but it has to be said the agenda of this administration and congress has been clear, they are going to move forward with the compete change in our transportation system to green and do it without regards of what economic impact it has. I expect before long those pre-2010 trucks will be off the road no matter what their purpose will be. The government will not allow loses to be written off or any grandfathering them in.

many think this can’t happen but just open your eyes and see what has been going on in the energy production industries, this administration just doesn’t care what rules they break, it will dictate what it wants.

 

To the OP..
IDK if this helps you out but my truck is 40 years old my truck is worth way more to me than a insurance company
I have had the same insurance agent for the last 32 years .. I do all the leg work but I submit to my agent 6 to 8 auction prices of compairable trucks per year so my agent has some comparisons as to what it the value of my truck really is
To be honest the insured value is still some what short of what it really worth but it's better that what a insurance company would say its value is my agent has done alot to help me keep a realistic value the best he can
I also keep detailed records of the parts and maintenance I do to the truck to help support what the value of the truck really is
Iam sure if the truck was ever in a serious accident I would not fare as good as I should .. but that's just the way it is

 

While it wouldn't work for OTR, I have to believe that many states will provide exemptions for local/regional operations. I know the feds can threaten to withhold federal matching funds, but the states have a fair bit of latitude in regard to enforcement, so my hope is that clear heads prevail.

Ag is a huge lobby in states like ours, and they enjoy huge exemptions now. I can't imagine that will change any time soon, at least until the rest of California moves here and there is no farm land left.

 

I think you may be missing something, first, the states will have to have strong governors to repel it, which there are only a few. Second the states need a vested interest in fighting on the right side of the issue which I don't think they can see what is the right side of the issue. It will be the same as the greening of the states, they will be told not to allow registration of the truck for road use or the feds will hold back money for roads and other pet projects, not just the matching funds scheme.

We are not dealing with rational people, some of these "save the planet at any costs" mentally ill people are now entrenched in the federal government and making up crap to do what they think has to be done.