Anyone installed AirDog Caterpillar Secondary Fuel System Upgrade Kit on 3406E or C15

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  1. little cat 500

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    I didn't invent the ecm with fuel as coolant but that was what it is intended to do take that up with cat
     
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    I highly doubt that the fuel coming from the tanks is anywhere near 180°... If it was, all it would take would be a very tiny spark to make it into a bomb... The flash point of diesel is between 125° and 180° depending on grade.
     
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    Take a laser temp gun and read it on a 100* day in GA or TX or wherever. Fuel continually cycling through a head at 195 to 200*.

    I had a 2006 W9 with an ISX. On hot days I could remove a fuel cap and vapor would roll out of the tank and you couldn’t see down into the tank.

    Flash point of diesel is 96*F to 205*F. Flash point doesn’t necessarily mean a liquid will ignite at that temp.
     
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    The auto-ignition temperature is the one you gotta worry about. Approximately 410°F for diesel.
     
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    The fuel in your tanks is never 180 degrees. If it was it would set a high fuel temp code in ecm.

    120-130 degrees on a hot day would be on the high side.

    Fuel goes through the ECM first on a 40 pin cat then to the head.
     
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    I had 04 Volvo with ISX and fuel in tanks were hot fue to a lot of return fuel. Thats how ISX runs. On this 3406E 1LW on hot day i see 120F max. Anyhow so you guys saying 1LW ECM doesnt reed anything in ECM just using fuel to cool it down ?. Than i can T fittings like AirDog guys told me ??
     
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    I know (at least with the S60's) that the fuel tanks were hot to the touch on a summer's day. I've never actually checked the temperature though.

    I could see the fuel pushing 180°F right out of the head maybe but after cycling back to the tanks and having 100 km/h wind blow past it, its definitely realistic to see it drop 40-60°F by the time it gets picked back up again.
     
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    Most folks bypass the ecm with fuel when its time to replace the lines. It isn't necessary to run through the older ecms.
     
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