Anyone on board for abolishing the two-hour free practice?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by EZX1100, Apr 20, 2014.

  1. EZX1100

    EZX1100 Road Train Member

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    Maybe this should be posted in rants, but i figured, since only OO's can deal with this, maybe this section is best

    Being that "we are all going to be on EOBR's" and our time is critical, why are we giving away free time?

    If the load is scheduled for 0800, and i arrive at 0745, i should be given a door and the loading should start at 0800 and not stop until completed (within the hour), detention starts at 0900

    If it is a "window appt" from 0800 to 1600 and i arrive at 1000, thats when a two hour window can be given, and after two hours, then comes detention time, detention time would statt at 1200

    good idea? bad? any takers?
     
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  3. EZX1100

    EZX1100 Road Train Member

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    next rant, "leaving debris (dunnage) in trailer after unloading"
     
  4. stayinback

    stayinback Road Train Member

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    Sure......

    Heres the problem we will face IF we are subject to EOBR's...

    Shippers/Receivers, mechanics,DOT,Brokers Are not going to Change the way they do things...

    I just dont see these folks 'hustling' so we can make a fair wage as o/ops daily


    Somethings going to have to give though...........Will we start Billing our Customers an extra 20% to offset lost wages due to EOBR?
     
  5. DirkSteel

    DirkSteel Light Load Member

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    Great idea! Never happen!

    Either everyone would have to do it or nobody will. As long as one company is willing to undercut the industry we'll never get the changes we need.
     
  6. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    GFL... I'm sure y'all know what that means.
     
  7. Starboyjim

    Starboyjim Road Train Member

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    EZX, good luck with saving the trucking world. Some shippers/consignees are great with drivers, some are real bad, a lot of the time it's just the day you're there and what's happening. If the fork lift broke down, if the dispatcher called in sick, (lots of this kind of material) you'll be there a while. I showed up in Del Rio, TX for an 08:00 delivery? Outta there by 08:15. It is what it is.

    Meanwhile, what about saving the world by not allowing drivers to show up in line early? Jump the schedule? What about shippers/consignees who schedule firm appointments, but take early drivers? So when you show up on time, you're the one who's waiting? I hate that. Maybe I'll sign on with J.B. and go d/h all the time. Work less, make more?
     
  8. Sly Fox

    Sly Fox Road Train Member

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    Here's the truth. When you price a load, figure out how much those four hours are worth. Don't do it for less than that.

    No different than drivers complaining about tolls in the Northeast, but don't seem to consider factoring those into the rate.
     
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  9. BobcatVolvo

    BobcatVolvo Light Load Member

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    I am being overly positive here, but I think when we go to EOBRs, the face of trucking COULD be changed. Instead of the almighty cents per mile, we could go to a real hourly wage. When our appointment time hits, the clock starts, then when the last bit of freight comes out of the trailer, we use a code on the receiver's receipt to stop the clock. Of course, we'd be logged off at breaks etc, but it could be one bone they throw us to make EOBRs more acceptable.

    Mr. Shipper makes us wait for hours; fine, we are on the clock. Same with receivers. They want us to run in dangerous weather, fine, its still $X\hour if we are going 25 or 62. It's probably a dream, but it could be the one way EOBRs may be a good thing.
     
  10. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    Only people giving time away are one that don't understand how to price. I have never intentionally given anything away for free. It is always built into the price. That is why you set a minimum rate and stick to it.

    If a 200 mile load is going to tie your truck up all day that you should be making the same as if your truck was running profitable miles all day.
     
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  11. Semi Crazy

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    Unless the trucking industry gets included in the FLSA (Fair Labor Standards Act) if and when the oppressive central government mandates ELDs (Electronic Logging Devices), most drivers will continue to cheat by logging 'On Duty Not Driving' as 'Off Duty' in order to extend their available time to drive.
     
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