Anyone tried using 53' intermodal as dryvan?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Joeziah, Apr 29, 2019.

  1. Joeziah

    Joeziah Light Load Member

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    I got to thinking about the amount of money its going to cost me to get a new dry van with a reinforced floor, high side bottom rail, internal bumpers etc. The trailer I want is turning into a 40k new trailer...

    Then I got to looking at my 40' intermodal container I use for storage...

    I know where I can get a brand new 53' intermodal container, with custom interior things like recessed chain anchors, e-tracks etc installed for around 20k if I pick it up at the dock myself.

    I also figure I can have a well built chassis with air ride that the container would basically permanently attach to.

    Weight will be more than standard dry van, but I would be hauling light stuff anyhow.

    -Pros
    Durable
    Better internal securement options
    Fairly easy to repair via welding

    -Cons
    Possible issues when you show up and they requested a dry van, even if the product will fit fine
    Extra weight, might be able to mitigate with an aluminum lightweight chassis
    Lose .5" - 1.5" of internal width compared to traditional dry van (though I've never seen freight use all 100 inches of the company trailer I pull.

    Thoughts? Experience?
     
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  3. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    It's still a dry van.

    Unless you have a reefer put on it.

    Short History.

    Breakbulk means theft, pilferage and so on until about 1956. A person sick and tired of it, organized about 30 custom boxes to be built, put on a ship and sent it to houston from the east coast. Trucks showed up in Houston to collect the loads in their boxes and delivered to the customers as dry van loads.

    No one else touches that freight inside the containers once loaded, doors shut. No more theiving. And in addition inventing a totally new and really fast business. One of which is the American Land Bridge. Ship loads 10,000 boxes in Asia for Europe. Instead of spending 67 days to Bremen, they sail 12 to the Seattle Port, unload. Train takes it across the USA in less than 5 days faster than Trucks. Reload onto ships going to Bremen off the east coast. It's there in another 12 days. Done.

    China is working on a belt and road (Including new rail high speed to boot) that will have that box in bremen in 30 days or less no American filth need to be involved.
     
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  4. Slowmover1

    Slowmover1 Road Train Member

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    Nicely done X1.

    But you forget the guys who want to have fun. Go to war. Disrupting the Chinks. The Great Game is back on!!

    I can’t wait for them to get farther into Africa. Take it over.

    Then declare independence from China proper.

    And you’ll enjoy Robert David Steele on “The Missing Trillions”: Underground Infrastructure”

    May be that THE LAND BRIDGE Asia to Europe is almost done. Beneath us.

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  5. Powder Joints

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    yeah, you can buy perfectly great dry vans for chump change conpared to what your talking about money wise.
    Why would you even consider 40K for a new van, used clean vans are all over the states cheep, yea, your going to need to through a set of trailer only tires on it and probably a do the brakes, so for 10 to 15 grand you have the headaches all done and ready to roll, It would be rare to need that much work on a used trailer, but make sure you do a complete inspection before discussing price.
     
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  6. Oso

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    I wouldn't permanently attach the box. One advantage you'd have is pulling another box if necessary: reefer, tanker, etc. CN rail puts skirts on their chassis now, so that's an option. Boat tails are not. Also the pins are generally further forward on a chassis, leaving a bigger gap. Obviously I'm thinking about aerodynamics here.

    I dont know how much you'd save though. Wouldn't a chassis run you 20k?
     
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  7. Numb

    Numb Crusty Curmudgeon

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    cross country in 5 days by train??!!

    more like 15-30 days.lol
     
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  8. Joeziah

    Joeziah Light Load Member

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    I need a 24,000lb load rating on the floor, most standard dry vans don't have the upgrade.

    If they do, they were beat to hell and look like hell and almost always ran very heavy freight. My freight is light but loaded by heavy ### forklifts.


    You can find nice ones for around 5k, or ones that would need minimal mechanical and electrical work and painting, all of which I can do myself.

    Even new ones seem to go for around 15k though. Not much to them.
     
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  9. Powder Joints

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    I honestly have never ask about floor ratings, but if the floor is in good condition and its rated to handle a full load which would be some where around 52 to 54 K. It should be good I would think.
     
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  10. Oso

    Oso Light Load Member

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    You should read The Box by Marc Levinson. Its a really interesting economic history - and a good read too.
     
  11. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    Actually about 64000 pounds inside the box on a dead lift to and from ships and trains.

    The box itself is about 7000 pounds more for 71000 gross Plus chassis which is another 6000 so 78000 plus your tractor at what? 32000? Youre over 100K


    A floor like that is way stronger than just regular boxes.
     
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