Anyone who why older trucks are costing soo much?

I bought a 16 new and have had zero issues with emissions. I only know one guy who had an issue with a newer truck had a sensor with the DEF while still under warranty. Personally saw a fleet of 80 newer trucks have very few problems.

I will say that I won't own a newer emissions truck out of warranty though.

A new truck was the best move I ever made. My downtime has been almost non-existent. I make too much daily to lose days that I could work. My net improved vastly even with the payment.

 

I think they (new trucks) are fine till about 250k or 300k then that’s when the games begin. When I started at the place I’m at, I asked the guy how his new trucks were? He told me no problems why? Well they had about 200k on them. By the time they were at 300 k they were all having problems. They are around 450k now and cost as much in repairs as a new truck payment.

 

That's why you see the large carriers shifting towards leasing trucks instead of owning them and phasing them out at particular mileages. 400-450k seems pretty common.

 

>Anyone who why older trucks are costing soo much?
If you think old ones are expensive buy a new one. It's like my buddy said when I asked why his divorce was so expensive.......,"Because it's worth it."

 

So your not going to be replacing small things on newer trucks, like 2010 models? Year of the truck doesn't matter at all, still going to wear out and need replaced at some point. And how many owners of newer trucks have any clue how to wrench on them? I'm speaking of newer but out of warranty trucks with all the egr stuff, repairing them seems to be more expensive than older old trucks to me, but I could be wrong.

But you are correct in the fact that most of us older guys, are gearheads and do our own wrenching . I spent a good year replacing 100% of the brakes and suspension parts on the rear of my truck, but I had a vision of where I wanted to be. Unfortunately many have the heart to want to, but lack the knowledge to do so when it comes to hands on repair.

In the last 2 months I replaced a airbag on my trailer, and 3 new hubs with bearings and brake shoes. Bought it used a year ago and just now doing a few repairs, I'll take that lol.

They all wear out, and you can depend on a computer geek or a Gearhead to fix it. I haven't seen many of the 2 in the same body.

 

There are some of the larger carriers rotating their fleets out every two years. 300,000 to 400,000 miles is the normal life expectancy of these new trucks, at least for some carriers.

If you look at what the manufacturers are recommending for oil changes and the new oils, along with the overall cheapening of the truck structurally, the life span of a truck is now under 500,000 miles.

The days of going trouble free for a million plus miles is now long gone. Look at adds on Truck Paper, many trucks with 200,000 to 400,000 miles with "fresh in frames".

These new trucks are still being fed pounds of soot internally, that soot just eats these motors alive. They can create all sorts of all in one DPF/DOC/SCR boxes until the cows come home, that soot is still inside of the motor chewing away at the internals. Why do you think your oil is always black as coal the second you start your truck in the service bay after changing the oil?

 

I wouldn't think of a newer truck out of warranty either, I can't stand the thoughts of that headache. I'd be nervous every mile .

 

Out of warranty they are incredibly expensive. Every part on the truck is incredibly expensive. I don't care what it is, if it has OEM stamped on it you will pay triple over what the same part used to cost just a few years ago. They have to make up for those warranty costs somehow.

 

Dad retired from a International / GMC truck dealership. I remember a truck coming in for engine failure, factory reps came in to evaluate the findings, and when they found the owner had used a fly by night garage who installed a Baldwin filter.... they refused warranty!! Warranty is a great thing, just keep your ducks in a row. As said earlier... someone is going to pay for that warranty.

 

The reason for Megas switching trucks is contracts with truck making companies. Hubby got alot of information when he worked for ODFL. One was reason for truck trading every 3 years. The first egr trucks were as many know worthless. Only in past 3 years have they gotten kinks work out of them. So Megas switched them out as fast as they could, hoping new models would have less issues. It is Extremely costly if that system breaks down. Truck would be offline for weeks. So to minimize that they worked out trade in contracts with truck makers. Switching out every 3 years in most cases avoided any issues with egr or def systems.

Now everyone is going automatic too with all the road sensors, cameras ect. If you didn't loose anything in CA then getting new is worthless. Reason it Needs a computer trained technician to do work on them. Trucks now are too specialized in parts to be work on by average Joe. So those mechanically inclined drivers go back to pre 2000 trucks as they Can work on them.