Appeals Court tosses DOT’s 11-hour rule and 34-hour restart

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Bunny, Jul 24, 2007.

  1. raindancer

    raindancer Light Load Member

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    If all these safety groups want to get rid of tired drivers it's easy. After they 've driven all day don't make them stay up another hour screwing with stupid logs and regs designed to produce revenue. I must say though that I truely believe that safty groups are really pawns of big companies that want to cut out the competetion. No driver wants to drive hour after hour without any sleep but with $2700 for plates ,$550 for 2290's,ifta,unregulated brokers keeping fuel surcharges,dock fees,lumperfees,increasing tolls almost every month, and fuel at $3 a gal. running legal will put you on welfare. Thats an idea I know we'd make more per hour and it has to be less paperwork.
     
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  3. GuysLady

    GuysLady Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Yep, less paperwork, more money... and just think no more nightmares about drowning in a sea of logbook pages and tickets!!!!:biggrin_25526::biggrin_25526:

    Bonnie
     
  4. Brickman

    Brickman Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Running illegally and falsifying logs can cost big bucks in fines and also put a driver in the big house. It aint worth it to me!
     
  5. GuysLady

    GuysLady Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    When I was helping in the safety office, I once caught a bunch of drivers running 2 sets of logs.... Gee, D and I made sure none of them got the next dispatch until the second set of logs was turned into us, and we destroyed them.... Needless to say, we had alot of unhappy drivers....

    Bonnie
     
  6. class441

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    It will be tough trying to say yes to preplans that you know will put you close to going over hrs. The very first week will probably be ok, but the recap weeks after that, ew....
    I guarantee no matter how legit and legal the company runs, they will not like to hear it took you an hour to drop and hook, clean out a trailer, and scale a load before you got back on the road. They will want you to minimize hrs so that you will always have plenty so you aren't right on your recap hrs.
    I would like to see a line 5 that doesn't count against your 70 myself. Even with the things we usually log on duty (and I think we all agree we round that down to 15 as much as we can), there are things we do that we don't log that are work related. I would like to log everything without it hurting my drive time down the road. Trip planning, making phone calls, waiting in docks, etc. I know that we "can" log it that way but it hurts and companies don't like it.
    So I think are next card should be just a "labor" rule = driving 63, physical unloading/drop n hook/physically doing your own mechanical repairs counts against the 70, nothing else. People get fuel on the way to work, put it on line 5 to monitor it but geez sitting in line 15 minutes and fueling 15 minutes isn't fatigue inducing labor.
     
  7. apple123

    apple123 Bobtail Member

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    who did they have as support with, there is great reading material your way, they need to do more research how to deal with the judge, words and which book he uses us critical to win.:biggrin_25525:
     
  8. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    Why dig a post up that is 2 years old?
     
  9. doubledragon5

    doubledragon5 Road Train Member

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    Personally post this old should not even be allowed to be viewed just my 2 cents..
     
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  10. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    I wonder if the date could force the post to go to moderation and if it is one of these types of posts, it would be subject to review and stop such wastes of time.
     
  11. Texas-Nana

    Texas-Nana Princess Drives-a-Lot

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    Why not just report it to the mods?
     
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