Are certain states bad to fuel in?

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  1. driverdriver

    driverdriver Road Train Member

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    It won't be long before we'll need one of those special crews that saves miners stuck down in a shaft.
    I think we're about 2miles deep in this rabit hole at the moment, lol.
     
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  3. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    So where is your Ferrari?

    :p
     
  4. Zeviander

    Zeviander Road Train Member

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    I've heard the fuel at the Flying J in Fargo, ND is pretty garbage. I think some states also force diesel to be bio-blends while others do not. Never heard confirmation about this though, I've just noticed some places like Wisconsin, you can't find a Pilot/J pump that offers pure diesel.

    Personally, in terms of truck stops, I'd go with Love's across the board. Never found a "bad" location so far, and they have a fantastic rewards program. As a company driver, I'm stuck using Pee-lot/J's. For a national chain, they sure are trying to stand out.
     
  5. driverdriver

    driverdriver Road Train Member

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    I've have fueled at flying j for the most part exclusively and have never had a problem.
     
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  6. mover man

    mover man Road Train Member

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    It would be interesting and fun to sit down and talk with you about this.
    But the answer to your question is NONE. The reason is buying the cheapest (after ifta) fuel has a higher cost when you purchase. Once you'e pur,based enough fuel to cover your fuel tax for that state. Everything else is over buy. Yes it does transfer over to the other states and you get a refund on what' left over.
    So it comes down to pay more today and get a refund tomorrow.
    Or pay less today (actually just enough) And no refund later. Cause the refund money is already in your pocket. Do you need/want an example to explain better?
     
  7. driverdriver

    driverdriver Road Train Member

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    The refund will not equal the saving from purchasing the cheapest before IFTA price.

    When's the last time you recieved refunds from IFTA totalling 1.600 to 2.500 .
    This is the range I save by paying attention to my base fuel cost.
    Pump price less IFTA.
     
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  8. RStewart

    RStewart Road Train Member

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    You need to read the article I posted earlier. The fuel tax you pay over the course of the year has nothing do to with the fuel you purchase. It's based on gallons burned in the states you've driven in.

    Once again, if you and I drive the exact same route and get the same MPG our fuel tax for the year will be the exact same.

    However, my fuel bill for the year will be less than yours cause I buy the cheapest fuel I can. Sure, I might have to write a check at the quarter to pay some fuel tax and you might get a refund but that's only because I didn't pay enough at the pump and you paid too much. Both of our actual tax liability was the same.

    So we paid the exact same amount of fuel tax for the quarter but I spent less on fuel. Therefore my cost to operate was cheaper meaning more profit.
     
  9. Elroythekid

    Elroythekid Road Train Member

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    Wow, lots of people not understanding how it works. I ALWAYS buy where the price per gallon Before ifta Is the cheapest. That's my cheapest fuel. Pay at the pump or at the end if the quarter, the amount is the same. The money saved on fuel is mine tho. So I keep it.
    I also avoid states that have a high cost per mile. Like PA. If I can go another way and avoid it and not be too far out of route I do it.
    Say Maine to South Carolina. If you run the coast to i85 then south you drive thru lower ifta states then if you go over to i81 and do a few hundred miles thru PA. Few hundred miles thru PA EVERY WEEK adds up to hundreds after a couple quarters.
     
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  10. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    Sometimes, I wonder if the cheaper fuel after IFTA is cheap because of its quality - much smaller BTU or too much bio mix. I also fuel outside the mega chains - the most, and for the most part I had not any issues with that but on a few occasions, the mpg decreased too much to blame it on a weight or high winds (which were not there) and in addition on one of those occasions, the diesel jelled up when temps dropped to 15 F over the weekend.
     
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  11. Cheezy_smile

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    I purchase most of my fuel in OH since I run that state a lot. But I try to buy in any other state I run just to even out mileage/gallons ratio in that state. I gotta plan my fuel stops regardless since I use NATCS fuel network
     
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