Are semis supposed to drive the outside lane on cloverleaf ramps?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by expedite_it, Jun 24, 2024.

  1. PaulMinternational

    PaulMinternational Road Train Member

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    Speaking about poorly designed traffic patterns. I met a traffic engineer about 6 years back. He was the most incompetent worthless person I ever met. You could show him something 30 times, give him an exact copy of what his needed to look like and he still couldn’t get it right even with the cheat sheet directly in front of him.
     
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  3. rbrtwbstr

    rbrtwbstr Road Train Member

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    I'm gonna take a wild guess that you've been in Pennsylvania recently while encountering such things.
    I think in the last couple years they've spent more money on traffic circles than patching their gazillion potholes
     
  4. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

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    Well it is Govt work and PennDot is 2d only to Connecticut when it comes to wasted construction $$$$
    But hard as it is to fathom….Pa and others didn’t spend a penny on the roundabouts or silly reverse no left turn interesections and Hiway interchanges….
    They were all 100% federally funded
    So genius engineer in DC (from Mass I’m told) said they work very well in New England and implementing them will save millions in new Hiway bypass funding and will keep traffic movin and safe and when couple of higher up PennDot people balked…Governor said “ If DC is givin out $$$ we’re gonna get our share
    So There ya have…govt thinkin at its finest :eek:
     
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  5. Dennixx

    Dennixx Road Train Member

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    Outside lane makes it easier to monitor traffic and trailer track.
     
  6. Blu_Ogre

    Blu_Ogre Road Train Member

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    At least they admit the problem and post signs for the cars in WA.....

    Google Maps
     
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  7. expedite_it

    expedite_it Road Train Member

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    If the off-track goes into the inside lane of the cloverleaf, the trailer could smash into a car.

    If one drives in the inside lane on a cloverleaf, the trailer won't collide with a car when it off-tracks. I have always drove in the outside lane on a cloverleaf because that's how my trainer taught me and (before I read the CDL manual a few days ago) I thought that the law dictates that a semi-truck must travel in the outside turn lane, but, to me, it seems like driving in the inside lane would be safer because when the trailer off-tracks, driving in the inside lane guarantees that the trailer won't smash into a car.
     
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  8. expedite_it

    expedite_it Road Train Member

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    How? One can see the trailer just as well (no better and no worse) in the inside lane as the outside lane. I would rather be in the inside lane and not have to worry about my off-tracking trailer colliding with a car.
     
  9. expedite_it

    expedite_it Road Train Member

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    Well, the only CDL manual I have right now is for the state of Georgia. Maybe if I had CDL manuals from other states, I would not have a hard time finding it.
     
  10. Dennixx

    Dennixx Road Train Member

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    So you are telling me it is easier and you can see the right side just as well as the left in a turn??

    The right is not known as the blind side for no reason.
    As you drive in a corner is it not easier to look out the left mirror as you look out the windshield than to have to take your eyes off the road and turn the head to the right to view that mirror?
    Maybe as best you rash a rim and at worst take out a signal or sign post.

    I know where my trailer is by where my truck is at any time.
     
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  11. Knightcrawler

    Knightcrawler Road Train Member

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    Personally the only time I would use the outside lane is under these conditions...
    1) Posted to. I-94 to I-394 west in downtown Mpls is one such place.
    2) Guardrail / wall close in on the right side.
    3) The land ends at the top of the ramp - and frankly in this case, I am taking BOTH lanes...
     
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