Are Super 10's weak?

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  1. Wildcat74

    Wildcat74 Medium Load Member

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    So I've seen it alluded to in other threads but what's the honest truth? Are Super 10 transmissions less sturdily built?
     
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  3. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    No. Structurally, they are the same as a 13/18. Yes, they're missing two gears in the main box, and they do the range shift based on lever position; but there is no inherent weakness in the transmission.

    The problem with Super 10s is that if you allow the shifter to leave the right gate, the transmission attempts to shift to low range. Not a problem at any appropriate low range speed; however, if it's done at too high a road speed, it will fubar the synchro on the range shift. Just make sure you have geared down to at least sixth before kicking the lever to neutral when stopping.

    I haven't driven anything newer than '99 Super 10s, so they may have rigged up some sort of interlock on the newer models, but I know that was the issue with the early models.
     
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  4. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    I was once told either the input shaft or the output shaft (forget which) is a weak link with super 10's - no idea if it is true.
     
  5. JDP

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    We've ran super 10s on all our trucks for years, probably 200 trucks in total, never had a problem. Seems pretty bullet proof to me.
     
  6. Superhauler

    Superhauler TEACHER OF MEN

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    a trans is only as good as the nut behind the steering wheel-nuff said.
     
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  7. Hammer166

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    Every one that failed where I worked had been driven by a driver who thought it reasonable to kick the tranny into neutral ~40mph coming down ramps or up to redlights. The trucks he never drove where all still going strong after 500K plus.
     
  8. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    So is that what stresses one and makes them break?
     
  9. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    Yep! The mechanic told us it screws the synchro (spits the pins, or something like that,) and exactly what had caused it. He said normally they hung in high range ( as ours had) when they finally let loose. He actually told us what he'd find before the trans ever hit the floor, and he was right. Basically the same as if you took a 13/18 and range shifted it at high speed multiple times; it would fail the same way.
     
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  10. heavyhaulerss

    heavyhaulerss Road Train Member

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    over 1.4 mil miles on my super 10 never touched. original clutch went to 1.2 million miles
     
  11. Wildcat74

    Wildcat74 Medium Load Member

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    Good to hear it all, this makes me a little leas scared to consider trucks with super 10's. Seems to be a lot of them popping up around me lately.
     
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