Are the newer trucks really that bad, no longevity anymore?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by ad356, Dec 31, 2018.

  1. ad356

    ad356 Road Train Member

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    i had a conversation with one of the other drivers at the milk plant. i have a manual transmission and all of the newest trucks we have are automatics, seems like the boss is no longer buying manual trucks. my truck is a 2017 and is one of the newest and one of the last manuals he will ever buy sadly. i told my co-worker that the truck im driving is only a year old and only has 63K miles on it. i said i should be able to keep this truck 10 years if i take care of it. im really not that interested in automatics. he said it will be lucky to live 5 years and that the newer trucks cant go the the distance like trucks from years past. are they really that bad. i run 700 miles per week and i was thinking the truck should last a long time at 30K per year.... so are the newer trucks really throw away items? with a vehicle costing so much money for even a day cab i dont see how they can be that bad.
     
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  3. olddog_newtricks

    olddog_newtricks Medium Load Member

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    They are just fine if you like sitting in the lounge at the dealership waiting on them to fix yet another emissions malfunction.
     
  4. ad356

    ad356 Road Train Member

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    thats one of the biggest complaints with it, it hasnt had any problems yet but i think it kills performance and mileage. it literally suffocates the engine. stupid DPF filter. if it were my company i would not be buying T880 with paccar crap engines. i would be buying Fitzgerald glider T800's day cabs with C15 or cummings N14 AND 18 speed manual shift transmissions ONLY. if you cant shift maybe you should stick to cars. i think it weeds out incapable drivers
     
  5. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    I've driven DEF trucks since 2012 with zero emmisions problems, and only 1 or 2 parked regens, and automatics since 2015 with zero transmission problems including last 2 years pulling a tanker and getting slammed from the surge until I learned how to stop that. "New trucks are trash" is just what "Y2K is going to kill us all" became. Some people just MUST have something to panic about.
     
  6. Ffx95

    Ffx95 Road Train Member

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    They’re not as reliable as the old iron trucks. They still can last 400k-500k miles before major work has to be done. The big issues you get is emissions systems. Many times it’s because drivers idle the trucks too much. Those def systems are meant to be running on highway rpms as much as possible. The filters start to get clogged up when idling too long so the system starts doing automatic regens to clean them up. If you ever notice the trucks with apus get less issues with the emissions systems.

    The automatics don’t fail as much as the first generation ones. Of course I’ve only drove with the Eaton c###-amatics they shift bad but they do last. I’ve heard the new Kenworths have an actual automatic instead of a automated manual not sure if the clutch slips like in cars if they do I’d imagine those new automatics are going to be bad.
     
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  7. bonder45

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    I drove 2 brand new trucks when I worked in the city. I dreaded going to work when I started because I had a standard. The day I got my automatic I was in heaven, no more sore leg leg from feather the clutch through traffic all day.

    Now that I am in the oilfield you NEED a standard for most of the muddy icy hills we encounter. Most guys with autos just slip out 1/2 way up the hill.

    Personally though, if I’m running a highway truck I would want a auto for the ease and extra MPG your going to be getting.....but I run the field for now so standard is in my books for awhile.
     
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  8. ad356

    ad356 Road Train Member

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    if i was going to choose emissions engine or good old cat/cummings i would go old school any day. i haven't had any problems but i do sincerely believe the DPF systems rob power and mileage. the truck im driving is rated at 500 hp (doesnt feel like it) but i have driven an older C15 ACERT powered truck that was lower mileage and i thought that 475 felt allot stronger.

    im not sure why he made the determination that the newer trucks only have a 5 year life, i dont believe that.

    i have too much fun shifting, its rewarding when you shift just right and it slides right into gear without even feeling it. there is no reward with an automatic and nailing the RPMS just right. its too easy and there is ZERO challenge in it, if you enjoy driving truck it takes some of the fun away.
     
  9. danny23tx

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    I am going on year 2 with a Used 2014 Cascadia . I have had 2 emissions issues Def Pump and they Updated the EGR Valve to a new more reliable one . Both one day fixes at FL dealership. 2014 and up I hear they reworked the ONEBOX to be more service friendly , I figure by now alot of bugs have been worked out .
     
  10. ad356

    ad356 Road Train Member

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    i wonder how those DEF systems handle constant stop and go traffic which is allot of what i do. in and out of small towns. i mostly float the transmission so i dont get a sore leg lol.
     
  11. Cam Roberts

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    Its not all regen issues. ITs sensors and all kinds of electronic failures. I own an old pete. The company i run for has all newerish macks. Im not kidding you when i say that at least 2 come back in on a wrecker becuase the trcks go into limp mode or shutdown. I never experience those problems.
     
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