Are we being watched? DOT verifying logbooks by computer

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by paul 1052, Apr 17, 2013.

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  1. I50

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    You can be cited WHILE going too slow but not FOR going too slow. For example: illegally participating in a rolling road block or poking along in the left hand lane, etc. Those can't be determined from a log book but could add support to such charges. And it would be counterproductive for police to cite you for going a reasonable and prudent speed for the conditions. In the real world it would be extremely rare for any police officer to be that stupid. (But not impossible.)
     
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  3. Cowpie1

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    Yeah, it would be extremely stupid for an LEO to cite for going too slow from a log. After all.... it could have been due to a construction zone or accident backup that was for several miles and an extremely slow crawl.
     
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  5. Lilbit

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  7. Ridgeline

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    I'm trying to figure out how they can actually use any info from Qualcomm or a private company records like Pilot or T/A to check against your logs.

    Has anyone ever been faced with a company divulging this info?

    I ask because if say a DOT officer in say Illinois checks my logs and saw I got fuel in Michigan, he can't call up or go onto a website to see what time I got it, He has to have a court order to do so because he is only enforcing the laws of his state, not the state of Michigan even if my logs were questioned, there is a limit to it. The exception of an accident even needs a court order for those records.
     
  8. ironpony

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    Typically, what they've done is to insert your trip data into a trip-planning software package to verify if your logged times are possible given the speed limits on those roads. While EzPass data is sent to the company, the fact that your tractor passed a scale is noted by the computer systems in the scalehouse - that is data owned by the government. Oregon does note that times that you pass a scalehouse, and does use that in determining whether you are logging legally. A DOT officer can call a fuel stop for your fueling times - they are recorded by the point-of-sale terminal software, but not printed on the receipt. Whether or not the data is given to the officer is usually dependent on the individual who answers the phone.

    For the most part the rest of the data is only available under court order.

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  9. shredfit1

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    I think they can if you use a fleet type card... Comdata, TCH etc etc. Using a credit card(Visa), at a smaller mom and pop fuel stop poses some problems for them however. As smaller business usually don't send info to the credit card firm until after a shift or end of day printout. In other words, the purchase would not show up until then, it happens in real time on the fleet cards. So it would be much more possible to do with using a fleet type card for fuel.
     
  10. MoGooder

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    Right after 9/11 I was checked in NY and they called the Petro to see what time I fueled in PA.
     
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