Are You Ready for Roehl's PreNup Agreement?

When I started in 2011 I was paid $0.30/mile solo running vans. I had 6 months in and switched to flats and was at $0.39/mile by the time I quit.

 

I don't see it as a bad thing.

One of my previous jobs (not in trucking) had the same thing, sign a contract to work for a year or pay back training fees.

 

I got my CDL at Roehl. This is not a new thing with them. If you go to the Roehl school you have the choice of paying up front for the school or work for the amount of miles and they forget the loan. The money is only for rookie drivers that are just starting out. There is no contract required for experienced drivers.

 

So let's see:

You get a job that you have no absolutely no skills at, and the employer trains you. The prestigious companies in the industry won't touch until you have some experience. So you clowns think it is perfectly okay to have this company use resources to train you to the level you can do the job on your own, just so you can take the first better job that comes along?


I'll admit the "no cause" part of the contract is BS, but you guys realize you are arguing the company is responsible for training you but you have no obligation to them for said training? You're entitled to that training?!? The only qualification you have is a piece of plastic that anyone who can walk and chew gum can get, and you think they should train you nothing?

I'm rapidly understanding why old men become crotchety... it's because of whining, entitled-feeling, burger-flipping kids like most of you!

SMDH!

 

If I start a company and need employees and don't have enough experienced ones to pick from guess what? Gonna have to spend some time training a guy with a good background to learn the job, If I pay crappy wages, I can't possibly expect him to stay after he has enough experience to work at a better company in the same industry or just get feed up of low wages and move to a different industry. Low Pay = High Turnover

The No-Clause part is what more than likely will make this "contract" void by anyone who fights it in court. I could technically hire people fire them the next day for no reason and collect $3,000, wouldn't even have to move a single pallet or run any real business at all. that's called a SCAM.

If you want a trained workforce, you train them. If you don't like that idea. I hear Celadon is going on a buying spree, Cash-Out and go home.

Old always complain about the young, then the young become old and complain about the young, etc. The world is just moving on without you.

 

So if I run a machining company, and I have to hire someone with no experience and train them to be a machinist, I should pay that employee as if he came to me fully trained? And have no qualms about that employee leaving for another company immediately after I've spent substantial time and money training them? I couldn't look myself in the mirror if I was that employee who did such a thing.

But I also come from a generation that had no problem working our way up, instead of believing it should be handed to us on a silver platter. And it's less the world is moving on without me, as it is sinking into the morass.

 

Who said anything about top pay? I never said $2.00 per mile, just high enough to reduce turnover which currently is around .40+ cpm as that's what all the better megas offer like Prime, Maverick, McElroy, some are even knocking on .50 cpm door for brand new drives. heck even Swift is upping their game, it's still low at only .36 cpm but still better than Roehl.

You would pay a new machinist a fair wage and pay your experienced guys top pay. That's a very easy thing to do. Like I said earlier in this thread if Roehl paid around .40+ and with their hometime policy MYSELF would work for them for years. They would trump all megas including Prime & Maverick and be the most desirable company to work for, instead they're going the way of CR England and the rest of the bottom feeders, which is unfortunate.

Also you came from a Generation that showed way too much loyalty to companies who couldn't care less about you, nowadays we know better and expect a fair wage for an honest days work or we leave.

 

Do you guys have any idea what we went through so you can have the pay you do today? And I've not been out here as long as Hammer but I grew up out here. You guys have cell phones and GPS and satellite radio and TV and all other kinds of stuff. When most of these guys started driving, you relied on pay phones and running 1000 miles a day as a rule. For a hell of a lot less than what the companies are offering now. Earn it.

 

in that case I see nothing wrong with it. obviously a company is not in business to lose money. training 20 to 50 new hires or however many go through every week or so and having them quit on you after a month would get pretty pricey..
however, there should be some clause about termination. not sure.. I guess if they are starving you out with lack of miles and financially you are forced to either find a new job or lose your house and now your on the hook for simply doing what you have to do to support your family then that is a whole other can of worms.
tough debate imo...

 

If that's the attitude that these companies have then they need to stop complaining about turnover and shortages and just deal with the fact that they will always have these problems and they will just get worse. The company is causing it's own problem by paying so low it has high turnover and then wants to charge their potential future drivers because they're getting burned by high turnover without correcting the underlying issue that is causing the high turnover in the first place, only now they'll have low pay & unfair contracts for people who already posses a CDL, causing less to want to work for them making the shortage worse and round & round they'll go with the more compounding problems plaguing them.

I am sure truckers in the 20's & 30's would also say you had it easy as heck too, with nice trucks, home phones with great reception, payphones, ATMs, I will be old one day too ######## about all I had was Internet, computers, Mobile devices, had to physically, drive a car, and how my successors have it so easy with their flying cars, automated vehicles, holograms, no more physical labor, easy access to anything they need at a push of a button, etc but we can't control what year we were born in, so we deal with the time-line we're stuck in,