Area Needed for Turnaround

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by joejitzu, Feb 1, 2017.

  1. Accidental Trucker

    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    This is the answer, but you can't put an engineer's stamp on a truck driver's opinion.

    On the farm, I have a 105 ft turn and I can turn a standard sleeper truck with a three axle 53' trailer around in an area much tighter than that. Would prefer such a tight turn to be gravel to reduce tire scrubbing, however.
     
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  3. Ruthless

    Ruthless Road Train Member

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    Lol I love all the mathematicians!

    The point missed here, is that the product is being offloaded without a dock. Likely flatbed, but either way that means the forklifts are on the ground. Meaning they'll be going over to where all that big empty space is on forklifts...

    Ergo that empty space used as a parking lot is gonna be filled with product until it's as tight as possible while still (on paper mind you) allowing the standard of whatever equipment shows up there to get turned around.


    On another note, what you have on paper looks like a cake walk.

    Where I dropped the pin is where I used to park (74.5' overall length) to be unloaded; then get turned around reversing one time.


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    Single entrance and exit to this yard for all tractor trailers, trucks, and every contractor in a pickup truck- entrance is here:

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  4. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

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    How does your "client own something via verbal agreement?" Because you know I would like to own a few things too with a verbal agreement.

    What your client wants to do can be done, but he is painting himself into a corner in all ways. Does he own the turn around land or not? Deed needs to be in hand because if it isn't, after the real owner sees the property after trucks churn it up, your loading/unloading situation just got much more complicated. Is the area paved? If so what substructure? Even empty trucks put quite a stress on a surface while turning around?

    Are you sure 65' is the longest truck this place will ever serve? 65' is a little on the short side for most interstate trucks. No heavy haul' over length trucks ever? Doubles ever? If you create a place that accepts shipments, you may find somewhere down the line that some contractor delivering or picking up may not have the ideal equipment for your turn around area; that is if you still got it.

    Any chance that turn around area or the area near it gets used for parking or storage. The bosse's wife going park her new Mercedes there because it is out the way and it won't get scratched? Is the entrance or exit of that turn around area going to be always free enough to move a truck around? Just some thoughts?
     
  5. thejackal

    thejackal Road Train Member

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    How about climbing up in a cab, a long nose preferably and taking a short ride when that person delivers?

    I mean, exp is worth more than all the the computers in the world.

    Whatever you do, don't copy Loves truck stop layouts!!
     
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  6. Espressolane

    Espressolane Road Train Member

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    Bottom line here is the space needs to always be open and clear of all stuff. whatever size it turns out to be. that is always a problem at locations. somebody will try and use the space for storage " it's only for a few days" or some form of that. then its weeks and soon it's all the time. Then the space is efffed up with carp, and you can't use the space for what it's here for. Then you end up on the list of places drivers avoid.
     
  7. Toothpick1

    Toothpick1 Light Load Member

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    Another one hit wonder. Posted Wednesday, hasn't been back since Thursday.
     
  8. Zeviander

    Zeviander Road Train Member

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    244" wheelbase with a 53' trailer is a 75' truck. And a proper turnaround involves no tire drag. It's easier on the equipment to turn a 90° turn, back up 100' then turn again in the shape of a 'T' than to pull a U-turn.

    And when it comes to trucking... "just enough room" will not be sufficient. Not everyone out there is a professional, and may only have a couple weeks training. They'll need a whole lot more room and no obstacles to hit.
     
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  9. Blackshack46

    Blackshack46 Road Train Member

    I got nothing better too do. Ill go wake the devils advocate.

    If you literally need 40 acres to turn the truck around, maybe we should rethink your career.

    Thats is all.
     
  10. Zeviander

    Zeviander Road Train Member

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    Just stating the facts is all. Easier to avoid damage from bad truckers by planning for it than finding out after building the perfect facility.
     
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  11. LGarrison

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    If you figure this at 65 feet they're going to fail you need to look between 80 and 85 feet
     
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