That’s so sad.
It just shows that truck drivers are mostly window licking, mouth breathing cowards that can’t function.
If these “professionals” can’t stand up to an “inanimate box” and drive safely and rested then how could they ever stand up to a dispatcher telling them to run all day and all night to get that load there on time and to recreate a legal looking log page later?
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Sadly, if I wanted a load of livestock moved 1,200 miles I wouldn’t hire a team to haul it and pay them a premium rate, I would look for a solo driver breathing through his mouth and pay him next to nothing to run it there nonstop.
We do need more regulations.
Aren't regulations a good thing?
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by NeeklODN, Feb 8, 2019.
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The bullhaulers I know aren't working cheap, and you thinking you're gonna pay one guy piss poor to haul cows shows how much you don't know.Blackshack46, PoleCrusher and STexan Thank this.
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I’ll agree that the cow hualers are hauling too cheap and they should embrace the ELD so they could get paid more and do less but the beef industry doesn’t wanna lose their cheap freight so they got on board and they don’t care of these drivers drive their self to death as long as they still have their cheap freight second of all you will never find a team to haul cattle because you can hardly find enough drivers qualified to haul cattle in the first place so dream on !!!!
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Just curious, since you know what the livestock rates are, what are guys currently getting per loaded mile?Rideandrepair Thanks this.
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What are cow hauling rates right now, since you seen to think they're too cheap.Rideandrepair Thanks this.
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Please explain how one loses the 2 hrs. There’s no 12 hr cap on 100 mile rule. Time card 60 hr 7 days rule maybe, however still able to work over 12 hrs a day with a log record, staying at 60 hrs total per week. I worked local 4 days a week 60 hrs week years ago, still legal if Truck adheres to 14 hr rule, with first or last hr of the day not driving.
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I agree with your post. I also think that Elogs can expose your worst drivers and your smartest drivers. The smartest drivers weren't affected by the mandate. People want to get out here and clown around as they please. Trucking is a 24 hr job. You have to be prepared at any time to drive, even on paper. I just don't understand why people are willing to drive tired on paper, but fight it on elog
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Before you spout bs, you might want to look at the law....
395.1(e)
(e) Short-haul operations—(1) 100 air-mile radius driver. A driver is exempt from the requirements of §§395.8 and 395.11 if:
(i) The driver operates within a 100 air-mile radius of the normal work reporting location;
(ii)(A) The driver, except a driver-salesperson or a driver of a ready-mixed concrete delivery vehicle, returns to the work reporting location and is released from work within 12 consecutive hours;
(B) The driver of a ready-mixed concrete delivery vehicle returns to the work reporting location and is released from work within 14 consecutive hours;
(iii)(A) A property-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver, except the driver of a ready-mixed concrete delivery vehicle, has at least 10 consecutive hours off duty separating each 12 hours on duty;
(B) A driver of a ready-mixed concrete delivery vehicle has at least 10 consecutive hours off duty separating each 14 hours on duty;
(C) A passenger-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver has at least 8 consecutive hours off duty separating each 12 hours on duty;
(iv)(A) A property-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver, except the driver of a ready-mixed concrete delivery vehicle, does not exceed the maximum driving time specified in §395.3(a)(3) following 10 consecutive hours off duty; or
(B) A driver of a ready-mixed concrete delivery vehicle does not exceed 11 hours maximum driving time following 10 consecutive hours off duty; or
(C) A passenger-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver does not exceed 10 hours maximum driving time following 8 consecutive hours off duty; and
(v) The motor carrier that employs the driver maintains and retains for a period of 6 months accurate and true time records showing:
(A) The time the driver reports for duty each day;
(B) The total number of hours the driver is on duty each day;
(C) The time the driver is released from duty each day; and
(D) The total time for the preceding 7 days in accordance with §395.8(j)(2) for drivers used for the first time or intermittently.
(2) Operators of property-carrying commercial motor vehicles not requiring a commercial driver's license. Except as provided in this paragraph, a driver is exempt from the requirements of §§395.3(a)(2), 395.8, and 395.11 and ineligible to use the provisions of §395.1(e)(1), (g), and (o) if:
(i) The driver operates a property-carrying commercial motor vehicle for which a commercial driver's license is not required under part 383 of this subchapter;
(ii) The driver operates within a 150 air-mile radius of the location where the driver reports to and is released from work, i.e., the normal work reporting location;
(iii) The driver returns to the normal work reporting location at the end of each duty tour;
(iv) The driver does not drive:
(A) After the 14th hour after coming on duty on 5 days of any period of 7 consecutive days; and
(B) After the 16th hour after coming on duty on 2 days of any period of 7 consecutive days;
(v) The motor carrier that employs the driver maintains and retains for a period of 6 months accurate and true time records showing:
(A) The time the driver reports for duty each day;
(B) The total number of hours the driver is on duty each day;
(C) The time the driver is released from duty each day;
(D) The total time for the preceding 7 days in accordance with §395.8(j)(2) for drivers used for the first time or intermittently. -
Like I said if one works more than 12 hrs punching a clock on a 60 hrs/ 7 day schedule, a copy of log must accompany the days work. I don’t need to spout, Ive done it.
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I've done a lot of things that aren't legal. I, however, don't go around stating it is legal.
And btw, if you turned in a graph log, you are logging and not using the short haul exemption.tucker and Rideandrepair Thank this. -
Regardless, I simply meant one can legally work more than 12 hrs a day while punching a clock. On those days a log must accompany the time card,And ofcourse all other rules apply 30 min/ 11/14 etc. The fact you stated about 30 min requirement being waived under 100 12 Hr rule, is good to know, First I’d heard of that. What I did was perfectly legal 10 hrs driving 5 hrs on duty not driving. Anything over 12 hrs, We had to make out a log, We were never allowed to go over 60 hrs total for the week.I worked mon tues thurs and fri till I hit 60. OT after 8 paid me 72 hrs.
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