Army Vet looking to get into trucking..

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by thedonald, Oct 31, 2017.

  1. thedonald

    thedonald Bobtail Member

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    Hey all,

    I was a 12N (heavy equipment operator) in the Army. I'm considering getting into trucking. I think I would enjoy long haul. No wife/kids.

    Questions (probably stupid ones):

    1. A friend of mine told me some companies will pay for your training but then they will pretty much own you for at least a year. As I have time left on my GI Bill, would it be smarter just to go to a local school and then have more options?

    2. What is the differences/advantages/disadvantages of driving for say Pepsi or Budweiser vs a 'trucking company' like SWIFT.
     
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  3. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

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    1) Best to get your CDL on your own no school.

    Next best would be to use the GI bill.

    The worst choice here is using company sponsors training. It is poor quality high cost and the training company uses it as a incentive for your continued servitude.

    2) Swift is not the worst company to work for but it is among the worst. They have over 100% annual turnover there and that is even when they have drivers with thousands in student loans owed to Swift.

    I don't work a Pepsi or Bud but I doubt they have that type of turnover. Any job that pays by the hour or is in a union industry is better then the CPM piece work at Swift where the driver is just a number and steering wheel holder.
     
  4. thedonald

    thedonald Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for the info. As far as getting my CDL on my own without going to school? How would that work? I've heard your commander from the Army can write a letter or sign off on equipment you've been trained on and then submit that to the DOT/Company.

    Honestly, I think I would rather have a refresher anyway especially since the VA would cover it and I would be paid a housing stipend while in training.. which I understand is 5-6 weeks?
     
  5. rabbiporkchop

    rabbiporkchop Road Train Member

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    I'd reenlist and pick a more lucrative MOS.
    Air traffic controllers can make $122,000 a year.
    Army intelligence can lead to very lucrative civilian opportunities.
    MILITARY INTELLIGENCE -The "Intel" Community are responsible for collecting, sharing vital information to combat soldiers concerning targeting, enemy man-power, and capabilities. Pictures, electronic, communications, human, and counterintelligence are methods used to collect information to save soldier's lives on the battle field.
    35F INTELLIGENCE ANALYST
    35G GEOSPATIAL INTELLIGENCE IMAGERY ANALYST
    35L COUNTER INTELLIGENCE AGENT
    35M HUMAN INTELLIGENCE COLLECTOR
    35N SIGNALS INTELLIGENCE ANALYST
    35P CRYPTOLOGIC LINGUIST
    35Q CRYPTOLOGIC NETWORK WARFARE SPECIALIST
    35S SIGNALS COLLECTOR/ANALYST
    35T MILITARY INTELLIGENCE SYSTEMS MAINTAINER/INTEGRATOR
    35V SIGNALS INTELLIGENCE (SIGINT) SENIOR SERGEANT/SIGINT CHIEF (add 1404 / 1210 - 05)
    35X INTELLIGENCE SENIOR SERGEANT/CHIEF INTELLIGENCE SERGEANT
    35Y CHIEF COUNTER INTELLIGENCE/HUMAN INTELLIGENCE SERGEANT
    35Z SIGNALS INTELLIGENCE (SIGINT) SENIOR SERGEANT/SIGINT CHIEF (del 1410 / 1210 - 05)
    FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT
    36B FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT TECHNICIAN
    PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATIONS -"Psy Ops" are used to influence the local population to not join insurgencies and be a source of information to assist Army soldiers on the ground. Getting into the head of the enemy combatants and helping them to leave the battlefield would be a vital role of the Psychological Operations Specialists.
    37F PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATIONS SPECIALIST
     
  6. thedonald

    thedonald Bobtail Member

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    I've considered it.. I actually tried to enlist as an air traffic controller when I first joined. Those 35 series MOS also require a TS clearance which I wouldnt be eligible for as I'm trying to clean up some credit issues.

    Also, I'm already out. It wouldnt be a standard re-enlistment. Im not 100% but I'm pretty sure they do not offer enlistment bonuses for prior service members.
     
  7. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

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    CDL is just a test. Part written, part driving. Being in the army, I do believe you can get one of those test waved.

    As far as I know only one state (WA) requires schooling for the CDL. However, there are even exceptions to that.

    If you feel better going to school that is fine. Shop around and find the best avenue for that. A community college is often a better place to start.

    Even if you do end up a Swift or one of the other Megas, some of them will reimburse you for schooling out side their program after so long of employment. However, I would not count on that and the schooling these companies provide is nothing but a money maker for them. Us the GI bill if you must.
     
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  8. rabbiporkchop

    rabbiporkchop Road Train Member

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    If you're young enough to reenlist you have some valuable opportunities available.
     
  9. thedonald

    thedonald Bobtail Member

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    I'm 30.. I'm at least going to call a local recruiter but I know not be able to attain a clearance will severely limit my job selection.
     
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  10. rabbiporkchop

    rabbiporkchop Road Train Member

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    Maybe 2% of truck drivers have the earning potential of an air traffic controller. If I had other options open I'd be Looking In other places than driving a truck.
     
  11. Dan.S

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    Did you drive a semi? As a 12N, you should have been trained to run a heavy hauler.

    When did you separate?

    If you are eligible for the military test waiver, DO IT.

    You will need a letter from your commander stating that you meet the requirements (you were operating the equivalent of a Class A rig, etc etc).

    Military Skills Test Waiver Program
     
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