Arrested on a 34 hour reset, criminal mischeif.

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by 1White_Shadow, Jan 22, 2016.

  1. Jubal3

    Jubal3 Heavy Load Member

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    Ignoring the prev. WALL 'O TEXT (because I think we understand HOS) and back to the OP:

    OP: If you had a blackout while drinking, you have an alcohol problem. Period, end of story. This is not something that happens to "normal drinkers."

    As for consequences, it all depends on DAC and who you apply to. Could be nothing, could mean you have to work for SWIFT for a year. Good luck. And FWIW, if you want to drink, don't get arrested for ####### while intoxicated. But totally ask for "detention" pay. Just for the giggles.
     
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  3. tommymonza

    tommymonza Road Train Member

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    Well we are on the subject of alcohol .

    What do the regs and company policies have to say about non alcohol. Beer and wine ?

    St Pauli girl makes a #### good NAbeer.
     
  4. GOV'T_Trucker

    GOV'T_Trucker Heavy Load Member

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    According to his statement this is the first time in his adult life that he has had a blackout (previous time was I think 12 years in his teens).. That to me doesn't say he has an alcohol problem. That just means one night he was having a little too much fun... An occasional drinker (heck even a non-drinker) can drink too much and end up passed out or have a blackout... That doesn't mean they have an alcohol problem it means that didn't control their drinking... The only way I would say someone has an alcohol problem is if they are coming home everyday after work drinking 4-5 beers (gettin' tipsy) and repeating this all week.. Or someone who every weekend is getting plastered and can't function....

    People in normal 9-5 jobs can come home have 1 beer everyday and not be called an alcoholic.. Heck you can go out drinking every so often and drink until your tipsy it doesn't make you an alcoholic (nor doesn't blacking out twice in a 12-13 year span)... Is it stupid? sure it is....

    I don't condone drinking (I myself am not one) but to jump on someone for having one bad night and telling them they are immature (not you another poster) is unbelievable. If I was driving OTR still and if I was a drinker I would never in a million years drink on a reset (unless I was home).. If I was in a position on my reset where I had no hours left then maybe I'd have 1 beer while eating dinner or something but I wouldn't get hammered.. Moderation is KEY!!!! But while stating this I will not jump on someone else who got hammered while off-duty, out and away from truck then call them immature and hope he doesn't drive a truck again.. That's just a out to lunch way of thinking... His drinking has no relevance on how his professional driving career is treated... The only way it would is if he tried to drive that truck drunk then that's when he would be mixing the 2.. Otherwise he is just a guy not working for 34hrs trying to kill time and over did it..
     
  5. Wargames

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    what if you went in and later found out she had a kick stand? Ha, Ha,Ha.
     
    wore out and taxihacker66 Thank this.
  6. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    This is not a regulation posting, but it is one reason I am as I am about drinking on the road. I was driving for USA Truck when this happened. My eventual FM was his FM at the time and told me of the conversations between the company and this drivers wife. Who tells this family that lost a husband and father that well the driver was just enjoying his right to drink, get smashed and drive. The trucking industry is going to get so dang tight in the future that if a driver just passes gas its going to be a federal offense. Trust me if you think its tight today let this crap keep happening! I'm not going out on a limb here but I know for a fact there are many truck drivers with drinking problems. These drivers are loaded weapons. This is why I will never blow sunshine up some ones butt when it comes to drugs and alcohol and truck drivers, ever!

    http://www.denverpost.com/ci_16955044
     
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  7. Wargames

    Wargames Captain Crusty

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    A drunk goes into a bar. He is very, very drunk - can hardly stand up. He slurs his way up to the bar and says:

    "Hey, bartender! Gimme a martini!"

    "No, no," says the bartender. "You've had too much already."

    The drunk spies a dart board behind the bar.

    "Tell you what," he says. "If I can throw three bull's eyes with that dart set would you let me have the drink?"

    "Sure," says the bartender, thinking the guy would leave after the little game. He hands the drunk three darts. "Look out, everybody!"

    Zot, zot, zot. The drunk throws three quick bull's eyes.

    Well, the bartender had never seen anything like that before, but he has to make good on the wager, so he makes a martini and sets it before the drunk. He then puts a napkin next to the drink and sets a turtle on it.

    "What's this," says the drunk.

    "That's a prize for such fine dart throwing," says the bartender.

    The drunk drinks his martini, picks up the turtle, puts it in his coat pocket, and leaves.

    Well, the next night, the same drunk goes into the same bar. Again, he is hopelessly inebriated; totally faced.

    "Bartender," he says. "Gimme a martini!"

    "No, no," says the bartender. "You're too drunk already. Go home."

    Again the drunk notices the darts.

    "If I can throw three bull's eyes would you gimme the martini?" he asks.

    The bartender thinks, "This guy can't be that lucky again. I'll get rid of him."

    "Sure, sure," he says, handing the darts over.

    Bip, bip, bip. Three bull's eyes.

    "Holy cow," says the bartender, and he gives the drunk guy a martini. Again, he sets a turtle next to it.

    "What's this?" asks the drunk.

    "That's a prize for being such a good shot."

    "Oh," says the drunk, and he quaffs his martini, puts the turtle in his coat pocket, and leaves.

    Believe it or not, the very next night the same drunk enters the same bar.

    "Gimme a martini!" he demands.

    "No, no," says the bartender. "You've been overserved already. Get on home."

    Spying the dart board once more, the drunk guy says:"Would tossing three bull's eyes prove that I'm not overserved?"

    The bartender can't believe that anybody this drunk could possibly hit the dart board, let alone get three bull's eyes.

    "OK," he says, forking over the three darts.

    The drunk deftly grabs all three darts and tosses them simultaneously.

    Thwock! All three darts land solidly in the bull's eye!

    "Unbelievable!" says the incredulous bartender. True to his word, he prepares a martini and sets it before the drunk guy. He then lays a beautiful long-stem rose on the bar next to the ####tail.

    "What's this?" asks the drunk.

    "That's a special prize for being so good at darts," says the bartender.

    "Oh," says the drunk. "All out of roast beef on a hard roll, huh?"

     
  8. A long way from Texas

    A long way from Texas Bobtail Member

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    I wouldn't even put them down as a place I worked, even if it gets dropped criminally the company is still going to bash you. Sounds like a good time tho.. If you ever make it out the lone star way look me up. The gals out here are just a pretty & can handle themselves with out the law being called... Haha we can go chasing white tail together... Never good to drink any where close to the truck tho keep that at the home 20
     
  9. randal02lee

    randal02lee Light Load Member

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    I would've covered for you, unless you were a complete ### and hard to drive with...then I would've dropped a dime on you, like your partner did...
     
  10. scottlav46

    scottlav46 Road Train Member

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    I gotta add my 2 cents to this deal. For what it's worth :confused:

    - I used to be a pretty fun, yet casual, drinker. I mean I'd get plowed sometimes, but not in a 12 pack a day kinda way. Drinkin was just a way to kill a weekend. Then I got older. Just like OP. Drank too much (not really more than usual, body musta changed or somethin) and blacked out. Granted I wasn't on the road doin a reset but I DID have to apologize to quite a few people the next day. That was the LAST time I drank more than 2 beers at a time. I'm with ya OP, and I believe ya.

    - this one is gonna go against OP. I've been on the other side of the business, runnin the company and managing the drivers etc, and if this woulda happened to one of my guys Ida done the same thing OP's company did. There's no way to glean the truth overnight. And I have a company to protect. Would I get to the bottom of it and consider hiring him back? Sure. Would I absolutely not let him back in the truck until all the facts were in my possession, from everyone involved including the court of jurisdiction? Yes to that too.

    Y'all can flabber on and on about how wrong OP is, how legal it is, yada yada yada...that's cool and probably fun. But at the end of the day we live in the real world and real things happen. Then we get up, dust off, and figure out what we learned from it and move on. Good luck to ya, OP. I personally think that ownin your giant dump on your life will make getting your life back a LOT easier.

    Out.
     
  11. Hick

    Hick Heavy Load Member

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    I got to thinking about it and the charge doesn't fit the alleged crime ->

    http://www.husseinandwebber.com/crimes/property-crimes/criminal-mischief/

    If the OP was just drunk and hitting on the bartender, they'd have gotten him for Drunk & Disorderly or something.

    Whatcha break?
     
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