Assistance In Finding A Good Company???

Discussion in 'Motor Carrier Questions - The Inside Scoop' started by Johnnb, Jun 6, 2007.

  1. Hub City

    Hub City Bobtail Member

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    "Lucky",
    Please go wipe yourself. You're a dripping troll...
    Who cares about all that BS?
    Go tell someone that gives a S&&*
     
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  3. Brickman

    Brickman Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Obviously he must be on the right track. Some one (you) is sore about what he posted.

    You have a right to an opinion just as Lucky does. If you don't like that, well then you can just not read his posts.
     
  4. Hub City

    Hub City Bobtail Member

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    To say I am "sore" because of his post or to infer he is "on track" is nonsense. He goes on-and-on and on. "Pontification" comes to mind. And I fail to see WHAT his diatribe has to do with trucking! If anything, I'm mystified....That's all!
     
  5. Jarhed1964

    Jarhed1964 Road Train Member

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    Thanks for the "free advice" Lucky. Much appreciated! :biggrin_25523:

    Seriously dude, I've run a couple of businesses before. One I sold (cause I got tired of it), a couple I just got tired of and closed up, and one I ran right into the ground.

    It's good to hear that I'm not qualified enough to be a MLM Millionaire. I wish you the best in that endeavor though. Have fun with it! Again, it's not my cup of tea, just like the Marine Corps is not YOUR cup of tea, however I wont browbeat you about how poorly prepared to be a Marine you are or how unmotivated and whatever additional MLM Recruiter Buzzwords come to mind.

    Try this: Sell a product that is worth something, is something that is in demand, and deliver the product and provide customer service better than the next guy selling the same product. THEN you can call yourself a business. Recruiting people to recruit other people who will then recruit OTHER people is NOT a business. Again, you have fun with it though, mmmKay sweet heart?

    :biggrin_1square11:

    Back to the subject: I'm curious if anyone else has run with TMC and how they like it? Jonnb, yeah, I have been told by one flatbedding friend of mine that it's not all muscle, although that helps. I have no problem with that anyway, I've always been very physical active and still am (Still in the Marine Corps Reserve) and exercise/run/weight train regularly, although not as hard as I did when I competed in bodybuilding. I think the workout on tarping and securing will do me some good.


    :biggrin_25517:
     
  6. Baack

    Baack Road Train Member

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    Hey lucky
    First off you are very organized with your posting.
    Second lots of it was hard to understand.
    Sounds like amway stuff, or I forget their new name.
     
  7. Lucky142

    Lucky142 <strong>"Give A Hoot"</strong>

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    Thanks! The facts are that 1% of the people are rich and the facts are the only place anyone has a chance to afford life is by being in business.

    Now, being in the Truck business is a great life, but it just does not pay, but what really amazes me are the mass numbers who never look to facts before opening their mouths.

    I don't want to preach MLM on here. Just pass ideas to people who might have real opinions.

    You can always find those who have opinions with nothing to back them up. As for Managers and Management in this country; I wonder how many wonder why our country is in such bad shape financially?

    Thanks again. After all, it is only business and that is what the American Dream is all about. Shame so few have any real dreams of consequence these days.
     
  8. Lucky142

    Lucky142 <strong>"Give A Hoot"</strong>

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    Are you short a few Hubs? Why not put your money where your mouth is?

    Why are people broke today? Why is there no middle class today?

    This country is in big trouble financially and you have the nerve to make such a gesture? Amazing. Okay! Them's fightin' words!

    Challenge if permission is granted: (but then this page will not be seen by that many and permission probably won't be granted so this is just an exercise of the mind to prove a point.)

    Lets start here:

    No! No gambling. But, for a true Capitalist:

    Freedom is about Capitalism! That's why many love being Owner Operators.

    Business is the business of America, according to President Calvin Coolidge. Although you probably never heard of him.

    Ever wonder why this country is now broke, or the size of welfare rolls are so numerous?

    Ever wonder why freight rates are so low, they bankrupt far too many?

    Evidently, you don't do a lot of reading of the business reviews. What is your pleasure? Playboy? Playgirl?

    Not that it matters, but if you don't have anything of value, to say, then perhaps, as the wise old owl who sat it the tree, _()-----() or do you remember.

    Those who don't know should take some time to do their due diligence.

    Welfare is just around the corner for far too many who have blinders on.

    Who pays for the welfare rolls? You and I tax payer! Make you happy?

    If it were allowed here, this is what I would do just to prove a point that people do not have to go hungry, or depend on government tax programs, and I have read some pretty government dependent comments in these pages. That wreaks of socialism.

    I would offer an exercise in business by introducing a program that costs practically nothing to own a side line business.

    What do you have to spend to be in business today?

    A Nice truck will cost you about $115,000.00-and that is just the beginning.

    I could do it with legitimate programs that start at $10, $12, $29 per month, but lets say $12 so not to look too cheap.

    Even if you got rich, most of you would still driver truck because I would be doing the same thing. It is a good life.

    My bet is not more than one or two people would take me up on this challenge and when you look at the price, you have to wonder why!

    Yet, when I see your message comment above, it relates to the general attitude of people today and why most are either dead or dead broke by age 65.

    Now the internal mail is too limited here, so this will have to be approved in order for anyone to take the challenge, but I would love to see nothing better than a bunch of smiling drivers with brand new rigs on the highway and not have to worry about payments. My e-mail address would have to be sent to all who requested it. I would approve that.

    As for me, I am diabetic and retired, so I won't be buying a brand new rig, unless I want a new pick up.

    I double dare all of you to make this thing happen. For $12, why not? Who's going to get hurt? (No one!)

    CHALLENGE:

    Lets see who's got the golf balls:

    No Information! No Questions! Just ask to be placed on a list and lets see how big the list can get in 30 days. My guess is maybe One or Maybe Two, Maybe! Most people will do nothing but complain about how bad life is, or about a Capitalist circumventing the freedom of the poor people who love being poor. Lets face it, "The Middle Class has all but disappeared!"

    You never send me one single penny. I don't want your money! I dont' need your money!

    Bet me! All bets off if there are not enough players.

    There is one driver who expressed an interest. I will ask him to monitor. There can also be up to four other monitors and they should be the first four to say yes to this challenge!

    Before anyone can participate, even though on a list, they must go through a basic education introduction to business. That means everyone will have to learn and teach. It's simple! So, why not?

    You do nothing but get on my list. If there is enough interest, then I will give a few people a challenge. They will in turn, be given names of people to challenge, by the rules of business that are established for honesty, integrity, trust, moral and ethical practice.

    Most of you already buy the product on my mind anyway, so it is not something you are not already doing. You are just going to change stores.

    MY STATEMENT:

    There is power in Numbers. $12 per month could buy your freedom. $12 per month invested in YOURSELF, can buy you a brand new truck.

    Every driver could be driving a brand new rig and not have to make any payments, within SIX months.

    All who request to be place on a list will be placed into a 5 x 7 matrix.

    Now, I don't want a new truck because I am retired and I am diabetic, so I am going to stay retired. So who will this really benefit?

    If the Matrix reaches 5 levels deep, I will activate the program. Not before. No business works without customers; not even wally world.

    No Ponzies, No Risks, Just Facts and Business that is high caliber, and you can quit anytime you want. If this starts you won't quit.

    In fact, everyone of you who drive through will want to buy me a steak dinner.

    JUST $12. But no one will participate or spend one penny unless there are numbers to support this challenge.

    No one will get the opportunity unless they answer some business questions and participate in a very simple step procedure.

    Skeptics are always welcome. Bad attitudes and negativity will not be allowed.

    Now, will this be allowed? It is not something usually allowed on forums, but attitudes prompted this, just to prove a point made by a US President one hundred years ago.

    The business of the Capitalist world is business!

    Business is a numbers game: profit and loss.

    You do the math:

    How many people would be in a 5 x 7 matrix?
    At $12 per month expenditure and profits based on:
    Line 1 - 20%
    Line 2 - 5%
    Line 3 - 5%
    Line 4 - 10%
    Line 5 - 5%
    Line 6 - 5%
    Line 7 - 10%

    The Business world consists of two types of people:
    Those who make money
    Those who make excuses

    Those who engage, profit and those who don't engage go hungry.

    Shall we see a bunch of brand new rigs on the highways with a Freedom Flag on the side?

    Heaven forbid! A bunch of American Dreamers living the dream!

    I doubt it will happen because most don't have a clue.:biggrin_2552:Then again, I doubt this will be allowed because I doubt management here would participate; though they should and they could because they are in business also, to make profits.

    Personally it does not matter to me. If it is allowed, it just give me a big headache for three to four months.

    Like the old saying goes:
    Hire an employee and become a baby sitter.
    Hire a bunch of employees and become an adult day care center.

    So, perhaps you get the drift that with nothing to say, why say anything?

    I will put the proof up front where you don't have a clue and most won't take a chance, even for $12 per month.

    Yes, this country is going broke and we are all going to be in the poor house by retirement; right?:biggrin_25518: I love a good argument.
     
  9. Lucky142

    Lucky142 <strong>"Give A Hoot"</strong>

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    Truck Drivers engage in other than trucking if they have anything on their minds, as the limited incomes of today will not pay for the expenses of today and sure won't meet tomorrows expenses.

    401 K's and IRA's are not good enough.

    Bank Savings accounts won't do the job.

    If you can't take facts and say thank you, you deserve what is down the pike for you.

    Simple as that. However, I hate the fact, I have to pay taxes for a bunch of people with no foresight.

    What do I owe you? besides nothing!

    We are no longer a manufacturing power in this world. We are a service oriented society and you are in a service business; trucking.

    However, if that is all you know; to bad for you!:biggrin_25510:
     
  10. Lucky142

    Lucky142 <strong>"Give A Hoot"</strong>

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    You are welcome, but you must also realize that all business is MLM.

    Now, about quality, customer service, etc. The top company in the MLM business is 21 years old and last year grossed over 785 Million. This is just one company with a satisfied customer base that maintains better than a 90&#37; customer loyalty.

    Why do they do so well? You don't have a clue! They have also received the highest award for business excellence that any company can receive. The US Chamber of Commerce Blue Chip Enterprise Award for Business Excellence.

    And you did not know! Quality? Business? You really don't have a clue.

    Mary Kay is not at the top of the list but her company provides the best retirement plan of any company I have ever seen, but then Mary Kay is not my bag and those girls definitely earn their paychecks.

    Now, I could go on and on about the business world of which you know nothing about, but what's the point.

    You are not interested anyway. I just hate to leave without letting you know there is a world outside your window you know nothing about, and your attitude just give me that much more to talk about; simply because you don't know what you are talking about.

    If you think it is easy, go pick a decent company if you know how to select a good company and make it work. Don't ask me because you know business and therefore you don't need my advice.

    I am just giving you free education. As I said, I don't deal with negativity among those I associate with. It is not good for business.

    Trucking is really no different. However the income potential is not there.

    That means you have to diversify your savings into some kind of portfolio to give yourself a chance to survive retirement expenses.

    The whole business world is Marketing to include the Trucking Industry. It also includes Sales. You sell yourself every day when you are in front of customers.

    Multi Level Management - Yes, it is true that many try and fail. Not everyone gets to be a Millionaire in the business, but the opportunity is there where it is not anyplace else these days. If you are good enough!

    It is that simple. You manage a business or you fail. You have a team that works together, or you fail.

    In the Marine Corps and in the Army it was no different. The Team makes the difference.

    There is nothing more that can be said because business principals are just that simple.

    When you get into Supply and Demand then you have to know a little more.:biggrin_2552:

    By the way, let me tell you about the Marine Corps. I was on the phone to the Marine Corps recruiter several times without an answer. The day I received my orders for basic training with the National Guard (after graduation) the MC Recruiter showed up at my home.

    I just had to say, sorry too late. After training, I joined Active Duty Army and remained until I retired.

    I had two uncles, one brother and a cousin in Vietnam the same time I was there. They were all Marine Corps. One of my Uncles was carried out of the Yallew River Country on Stretcher. Well decorated from Korea and Vietnam. He retired a Sergeant Major and continued serving this country by becoming a juvenile Judge in Augusta, GA.

    My other Uncle spent his time attached to Marine Air wings and retired a Gunny.

    I have nothing against Jar Heads. However, far too many live up to the connotation. Actually, I preferred the term "Gravel Agitator!"
     
  11. Lucky142

    Lucky142 <strong>"Give A Hoot"</strong>

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    Has nothing to do with Amway, although there is a truck driver Owner Operator who put his wife through school. She graduated with a four year degree in Business and signed on with amway. After 17 1/2 years, I visited their home in Portland and her paycheck for one month was $187,000 for one month.

    So, even though I have never liked Amway and they were never within the top 20 of all companies, I can't knock them for the opportunity they presented.

    I just did not like their approach to the business, their prices, or they payout.

    But then, you see, I understand the business world and have reviewed many companies out there. They are all very different and each one may not be for everyone, but the problem is people get roped into programs they don't understand and have had no training.

    With a limited business knowledge people do not survive. Same for Owner Operators, right?

    So, yes, I bounced around on a couple of points, but I have been trying to get a paper done for another business while trying to keep up with the forum tonight.

    I apologize for that, but I think I got the points across.

    At least it is informational and it is all factual without trying to cram anyting down anyones throat.

    It just erks me when so many are hungry and so many are spewing garbage about something they have no knowledge of.

    Just getting involved in something and failing does not make anyone an expert in anything but failure.

    So please excuse the disorganized info additions, but I just had to go back and reply to things I did not pick up or did not think relevant until I thought about what was said.
    :biggrin_2552: Its been a busy night to night as stuff flows in and out.

    By the way, I don't remember their new parent company, but Amway is still together under the old name internationally. I have friends with them in Europe.
     
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